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fogie55
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as far as I can tell, dots do not appreciably regain energy during halftime. EDIT DOES LOOK LIKE THEY REGAIN SOME, BUT I STILL SUGGEST IT SHOULD BE MORE

an NFL halftime is 12 minutes (longer in playoffs), NCAA usually about 15. Shouldn't a bit more energy be restored during this brief rest?

FG attempt with 13 seconds left in first half. http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2147124&pbp_id=3282152
there is one play after missed FG
kickoff of 2nd half http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2147124&pbp_id=3282262

10 of 11 same dots in for Guahan team for both linked plays, none was in on the play in-between

energy at start of FG block, end of FG block, and start of 3Q KO... EDITED TO INCLUDE END OF FG BLOCK; EDIT to include their approx stamina at that point
C Antimony 28, 21 and 32...stam 12
C Barium 19, 11 and 17...stam 12
LB Xenon 35, 27 and 42... stam 15
LB Iodine 12, 5 and 12...stam 15
HB Molybdenum 9, 5 and 10... stam 16
K Lithium 13, 11 and 19... ...stam 4
C Tellurium 23, 16 and 22... stam
C Lanthanum 30, 23 and 38...stam 12
C Tin 20, 14 and 19......stam 12
LB Cerium 13, 6 and 14...stam 15

Unless they guys are so out of shape that walking to and from the locker room is tiring them out, these numbers should be a bit higher? considering that sitting out one play restores a small amount of breath, how could theirs be lower after halftime? edit: none of the is "lower" and I wish forums had strikeout text options.
Edited by fogie55 on Aug 30, 2012 22:39:12
Edited by fogie55 on Aug 30, 2012 22:34:15
Edited by fogie55 on Aug 26, 2012 22:05:58
Edited by fogie55 on Aug 26, 2012 22:02:38
Edited by fogie55 on Aug 26, 2012 21:58:48
 
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*edit* If this was about ProKop's teams I'd know why the stamina goes down at halftime.Our cheerleaders work extra hard there
Edited by Team Nucleus on Aug 24, 2012 22:12:56
 
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OP's dots are rookies. Probably suffer from non-optimized diets and poor conditioning (if you need a RL explanation for in-game function).
 
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Originally posted by CDZYO
OP's dots are rookies. Probably suffer from non-optimized diets and poor conditioning (if you need a RL explanation for in-game function).


so do non-rookie dots regain energy better during halftime? is it a % of stamina or something?

that still doesn't explain the three that managed to LOSE energy during the 12 minute break--should that be reported as a bug? EDIT: none actually lost stamina, but gains were very small considering the 12 or so minute break
Edited by fogie55 on Aug 26, 2012 21:59:34
Edited by fogie55 on Aug 25, 2012 17:01:47
 
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Originally posted by fogie55
so do non-rookie dots regain energy better during halftime? is it a % of stamina or something?

that still doesn't explain the three that managed to LOSE energy during the 12 minute break--should that be reported as a bug?

I honestly was curious to know the answer to the first two questions, but became too lazy to look. To the third, maaaaay-bee: you only mentioned what the energy was at the start of the first play, not at the end of it (that is, how much energy did the play take out of the player?).

Edit to add: I found a series where one of my teams kicked a field goal at the end of the half (http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2120559&pbp_id=2739566), then received the kickoff at the start of the second half. Unfortunately, only two players were on the field for both plays.

Name - energy at start of first play -> energy at end of first play, energy at start of second play
Chuckles Bullrush - 94 -> 92, 94
Mario Velasquez - 95 -> 92, 96

Both are pro-level dots with ~62 stamina (63 and 62.33, respectively), so I think the answer to the first two questions is "yes." I'd check some mid-level (say, between lvl 28 and 40) dots for comparison.
Edited by CDZYO on Aug 25, 2012 18:38:52
 
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Originally posted by CDZYO

I honestly was curious to know the answer to the first two questions, but became too lazy to look. To the third, maaaaay-bee: you only mentioned what the energy was at the start of the first play, not at the end of it (that is, how much energy did the play take out of the player?).

Edit to add: I found a series where one of my teams kicked a field goal at the end of the half (http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2120559&pbp_id=2739566), then received the kickoff at the start of the second half. Unfortunately, only two players were on the field for both plays.

Name - energy at start of first play -> energy at end of first play, energy at start of second play
Chuckles Bullrush - 94 -> 92, 94
Mario Velasquez - 95 -> 92, 96

Both are pro-level dots with ~62 stamina (63 and 62.33, respectively), so I think the answer to the first two questions is "yes." I'd check some mid-level (say, between lvl 28 and 40) dots for comparison.


thanks CD... the closest I have to "mid-level" is some dots playing semi-pros, and one is in on a lot on ST...will see if I can find some comparable figures... will also update the OP with end-of-play figures when i get around to it
 
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Just another one of those weird little things that seems to elude Bort and Catch. But I guess when you're spending hours and hours trying to figure out how to make O-line/D-line interaction suck a little less, stuff like this can get overlooked.
 
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what do y'all think will be the response if losing energy during halftime is reported as a bug (at least for low level dots)? WAI? is it better to go the route of a suggestion or bug report?

EDIT: with the addition of end of snap figures I'd no longer suggest this is a bug...there is modest gains over the halftime period, but nothing like what one would realistically expect
Edited by fogie55 on Aug 26, 2012 22:03:52
 
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Originally posted by fogie55
what do y'all think will be the response if losing energy during halftime is reported as a bug (at least for low level dots)? WAI? is it better to go the route of a suggestion or bug report?


Mos-def a bug.Its not even logical for players to lose energy at halftime.
If anything they should be gaining energy at the half.
 
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Originally posted by fogie55
as far as I can tell, dots do not appreciably regain energy during halftime.

an NFL halftime is 12 minutes (longer in playoffs), NCAA usually about 15. Shouldn't a bit more energy be restored during this brief rest?

FG attempt with 13 seconds left in first half. http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2147124&pbp_id=3282152
there is one play after missed FG
kickoff of 2nd half http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2147124&pbp_id=3282262

10 of 11 same dots in for Guahan team for both linked plays, none was in on the play in-between

energy at start of each play:
C Antimony 28 and 32
C Barium 19 and 17 (somehow this guy's is actually lower!)
LB Xenon 35 and 42
LB Iodine 12 and 12 (unchanged)
HB Molybdenum 9 and 10
K Lithium 13 and 19
C Tellurium 23 and 22 (also lower)
C Lanthanum 30 and 38
C Tin 20 and 19 (lower again)
LB Cerium 13 and 14

Unless they guys are so out of shape that walking to and from the locker room is tiring them out, these numbers should be a bit higher? considering that sitting out one play restores a small amount of breath, how could theirs be lower after halftime?


The question becomes, what are those players energy AFTER the play you listed, just before the half?

Those that you are showing as "lower" after the half probably actually gained some back as they were likely 3-5 (or whatever a play drains from them) lower than what you listed.

So take the last player that you show as "lower" after halftime.... (C Tin) that you have listed as 20 BEFORE he played the final play of the 1st half....... if I am reading you right anyway..... then his energy was likely down a few AFTER that play, maybe in the 15-17 range? Then it is 19 after halftime..... so it actually went up (I am willing to bet), but I agree it probably should go up more.

Bet this will get a WAI response from Bort if we can get him to reply.

 
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