What are you thoughts on strength on a speedster. I know it helps you fight for the ball and break tackles but has anyone seen any real results with it?
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Originally posted by kevoncox
What are you thoughts on strength on a speedster. I know it helps you fight for the ball and break tackles but has anyone seen any real results with it?
They still need some strength to at least break tackles.
What are you thoughts on strength on a speedster. I know it helps you fight for the ball and break tackles but has anyone seen any real results with it?
They still need some strength to at least break tackles.
Originally posted by dodohead
They still need some strength to at least break tackles.
strength/carrying for helping prevent knocked loose passes.
They still need some strength to at least break tackles.
strength/carrying for helping prevent knocked loose passes.
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Originally posted by kevoncox
What are you thoughts on strength on a speedster. I know it helps you fight for the ball and break tackles but has anyone seen any real results with it?
Strength on a receiver will not help you break tackles. Honestly you need a significant investment in SA's + VA's + AE + strength + carrying to have any hope at breaking tackles vs even competition when your WR is finished. One of the worst mistakes you can make on a WR is randomly pumping 1 attribute or pumping spin thinking it'll break tackles by itself, it simply won't.
In general 48/48 str/car should be the minimum, because its cheap to get there and great value. I wouldn't mind 60 or 68 strength both for blocking and preventing KLs and helping the catch roll, but 48 is needed, less is dumb. Its like recTE's with 20 jumping and 85 catching. Do peeps think catching (the most important thing in the anti-PD roll) is weighted 8x more than jumping (the 2nd most important thing in the anti-PD roll)? Because that is what they imply their thinking is by building players like that. Its awful.
What are you thoughts on strength on a speedster. I know it helps you fight for the ball and break tackles but has anyone seen any real results with it?
Strength on a receiver will not help you break tackles. Honestly you need a significant investment in SA's + VA's + AE + strength + carrying to have any hope at breaking tackles vs even competition when your WR is finished. One of the worst mistakes you can make on a WR is randomly pumping 1 attribute or pumping spin thinking it'll break tackles by itself, it simply won't.
In general 48/48 str/car should be the minimum, because its cheap to get there and great value. I wouldn't mind 60 or 68 strength both for blocking and preventing KLs and helping the catch roll, but 48 is needed, less is dumb. Its like recTE's with 20 jumping and 85 catching. Do peeps think catching (the most important thing in the anti-PD roll) is weighted 8x more than jumping (the 2nd most important thing in the anti-PD roll)? Because that is what they imply their thinking is by building players like that. Its awful.
Edited by WiSeIVIaN on Jul 28, 2012 10:10:32
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
In general 48/48 str/car should be the minimum, because its cheap to get there and great value. I wouldn't mind 60 or 68 strength both for blocking and preventing KLs and helping the catch roll, but 48 is needed, less is dumb. Its like recTE's with 20 jumping and 85 catching. Do peeps think catching (the most important thing in the anti-KL roll) is weighted 8x more than jumping (the 2nd most important thing in the anti-KL roll)? Because that is what they imply their thinking is by building players like that. Its awful.
I'm not aware that strength plays a significant role against KLs, but carrying does. Also, I think taut and a lot of the DS guys have WRs with strength less than 48. Furthermore, I think you meant that jumping is important in the anti-PD roll, as I'm pretty sure it has nothing whatsoever to do with KLs.
In general 48/48 str/car should be the minimum, because its cheap to get there and great value. I wouldn't mind 60 or 68 strength both for blocking and preventing KLs and helping the catch roll, but 48 is needed, less is dumb. Its like recTE's with 20 jumping and 85 catching. Do peeps think catching (the most important thing in the anti-KL roll) is weighted 8x more than jumping (the 2nd most important thing in the anti-KL roll)? Because that is what they imply their thinking is by building players like that. Its awful.
I'm not aware that strength plays a significant role against KLs, but carrying does. Also, I think taut and a lot of the DS guys have WRs with strength less than 48. Furthermore, I think you meant that jumping is important in the anti-PD roll, as I'm pretty sure it has nothing whatsoever to do with KLs.
Edited by jdbolick on Jul 27, 2012 17:35:57
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Originally posted by jdbolick
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Hah, you have a WR named Two Chainz. Awesome.
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Hah, you have a WR named Two Chainz. Awesome.
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=2092505&playoffs=0
One KL loose this season, 7 broken tackles, 50 receptions.
I think I would take speed and catching higher next time, maybe at the expense of strength (but mostly at the expense of bad building)
One KL loose this season, 7 broken tackles, 50 receptions.
I think I would take speed and catching higher next time, maybe at the expense of strength (but mostly at the expense of bad building)
only absolute with a STR. WR is they can block big time.....but alas most is left to an OC to make work
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Furthermore, I think you meant that jumping is important in the anti-PD roll, as I'm pretty sure it has nothing whatsoever to do with KLs.
If you read my post I think its reasonably clear that jumping and catching are both referencing the anti-PD roll.
Furthermore, I think you meant that jumping is important in the anti-PD roll, as I'm pretty sure it has nothing whatsoever to do with KLs.
If you read my post I think its reasonably clear that jumping and catching are both referencing the anti-PD roll.
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Can you have successful WRs with less than 48 strength? Of course.
Is it sloppy dotbuilding? Of course.
Unless you WR is never going to block and is at no risk of KLs, its crazy to not softcap strength. I'd be extremely surprise if carrying has twice the weight on KLs when compared to strength (and some experience with 50 str TEs will back that up) so having >48 carrying with <48 strength is sloppy bad dot building.
WR is a position where, more than any other in GLB, there are a shitton of assumptions made about whats viable and whats optimal, without any actual results or solid reasoning behind it.
Is it sloppy dotbuilding? Of course.
Unless you WR is never going to block and is at no risk of KLs, its crazy to not softcap strength. I'd be extremely surprise if carrying has twice the weight on KLs when compared to strength (and some experience with 50 str TEs will back that up) so having >48 carrying with <48 strength is sloppy bad dot building.
WR is a position where, more than any other in GLB, there are a shitton of assumptions made about whats viable and whats optimal, without any actual results or solid reasoning behind it.
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