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Its just frakking ridiculous. Get rid of it.

One Blocker One Block

Example of problem, the FB here blocks the ROLB and the ILB all by his lonesome. Please advance the play one frame at a time. Notice the defenders are coming in from different directions. Its moronic that he picks them both up and stuffs them both to let the HB slip through for a long gain.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2023336&pbp_id=6296063

Say it with me again

One Blocker One Block

One Blocker One Block

One Blocker One Block

+1 this is you aren't a fool.

Looks to me like he only blocked one, pancaked him then moved to the next.

Originally posted by Dr. E
Looks to me like he only blocked one, pancaked him then moved to the next.

I see why you say that but look more closely, the guy he pancakes is the SECOND guy to get there. The ILB gets to him first and is never pancaked.

Now maybe he asked the ILB to wait a second and then hit the ROLB before blocking the ILB....

But then the ROLB gets up and is pancaked AGAIN....



But regardless, lets say that excluding serial pancakes or pancake-block which is fine by me, can you agree that the rule should be One Blocker One Block? Cuz thats not the case now whether or not this example is the perfect example.

Originally posted by yello1
Its just frakking ridiculous. Get rid of it.

One Blocker One Block

Example of problem, the FB here blocks the ROLB and the ILB all by his lonesome. Please advance the play one frame at a time. Notice the defenders are coming in from different directions. Its moronic that he picks them both up and stuffs them both to let the HB slip through for a long gain.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2023336&pbp_id=6296063



It is possible I did that several times playing fullback in college. Blocking one guy into another one which will take them BOTH out. If a defender takes an bad angle and gets crushed, knocked off his feet his body will screen the pursuit happens more often than you think. After all players are not poltergeist out there that phase out once blocked.

Originally posted by rcpilot

It is possible I did that several times playing fullback in college. Blocking one guy into another one which will take them BOTH out. If a defender takes an bad angle and gets crushed, knocked off his feet his body will screen the pursuit happens more often than you think. After all players are not poltergeist out there that phase out once blocked.



If the game could make it happen only in select situations that would be okay.

Instead its the norm it seems.

For instance here you see that the ROLB is coming from the FBs front left. The ILB from his front right.

No way in heck he is going to throw the ILB into the ROLB.

Other times in pure open field a CB will be in blocked by a FB or HB outside and the FS will come storming up from several yards away and instead of going around ram into the back of the CB and stack up like an idiot.

Its not real football being simulated.

Its crappy pathing.

Originally posted by yello1


For instance here you see that the ROLB is coming from the FBs front left. The ILB from his front right.

No way in heck he is going to throw the ILB into the ROLB.

Other times in pure open field a CB will be in blocked by a FB or HB outside and the FS will come storming up from several yards away and instead of going around ram into the back of the CB and stack up like an idiot.

Its not real football being simulated.

Its crappy pathing.

Pathing is not perfect in this simulation I agree, but its not too bad. However in this replay I can totally see that happening. The outside LB over pursues AND gets head faked into the path of the ILB. The OLB might of taken out the ILB even if the FB had NOT been there its an easy DBL Decleater for the FB.

+1 to suggestion http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2010841&pbp_id=6267962 this could never be accomplished by a human being. while blocking the LDE, the ROT reaches out and pancakes the blitzing SS with one hand...it happens a lot in this sim and is very frustrating to DC's

+1, some of the double blocks are absurd. Or look absurd, anyway. Even a weakass WR will hold a couple of defenders in check for several seconds.

i have to give this a -1 only because as it stands right now this is the only hope a passing game has.

Originally posted by TheBear
i have to give this a -1 only because as it stands right now this is the only hope a passing game has.

bring back last season's sim and up deflections a bit...problem solved

well the EG the OLB takes a bad angle which allows the fullback to seal the inside and the HB takes it... its perfectly logical that u can block 1 guy into another guy whos taking a bad angle

Originally posted by pancakewood
Pathing is not perfect in this simulation I agree, but its not too bad. However in this replay I can totally see that happening. The outside LB over pursues AND gets head faked into the path of the ILB. The OLB might of taken out the ILB even if the FB had NOT been there its an easy DBL Decleater for the FB.



So the keystone cops running into each other is what you expect to happen with high vision high agility national pro dots.....

Dude, its a bug, not a feature.

Originally posted by Ishamw
well the EG the OLB takes a bad angle which allows the fullback to seal the inside and the HB takes it... its perfectly logical that u can block 1 guy into another guy whos taking a bad angle

Get two of your best 250 pound pro football friends and try it sometime.

Or just show me an NFL clip with it happening.

I've looked before.

No success.

Originally posted by yello1
Or just show me an NFL clip with it happening.

I've looked before.

No success.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nfl+double+block

Or for that matter, the first result from http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=percy+harvin+touchdown -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufaAQKUMb3A

(Rhetorical flourishes don't work in print were they can be easily disproved. See: Ken1.)

Originally posted by CDZYO

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nfl+double+block

Or for that matter, the first result from http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=percy+harvin+touchdown -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufaAQKUMb3A

(Rhetorical flourishes don't work in print were they can be easily disproved. See: Ken1.)


Did you notice how your "double block" google generated two threads about the same amazing play and then alot of Madden NFL links????

Thats a hint about how rare such a block is.

That said, that play isn't a double block at all (commentation aside). The defender doesn't make the play because he commited to the wrong gap. By the time he turns around to face the runner and begins to step off the runner is already past him, three yards away and at full speed. He had not shot at a tackle. That his team mate then stepped on his foot causing him to fall down was not relevant.

Moreover that is not at all the kind of play I am talking about in the OP. The safety and LB were both coming to the play from the same direction. And the blocker never lays a hand on the safety. If the safety was still trying to go past the block he would have been able to do so. His problem was he pursued in the wrong direction, not a block.