Idk if it's just me, but I'd like some players to use combo pass rushing style and I'd like to have a VA to help on that, just like there is one for evasive and bull rushing. Maybe a new VA that help combo rushers or just make the actual VAs help on that too. Shouldn't be hard to add and seems only fair to me.
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Ken1
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Originally posted by Luzod
Idk if it's just me, but I'd like some players to use combo pass rushing style and I'd like to have a VA to help on that, just like there is one for evasive and bull rushing. Maybe a new VA that help combo rushers or just make the actual VAs help on that too. Shouldn't be hard to add and seems only fair to me.
+1. One would expect that the unpredictability would create some advantage for the pass rusher.
Idk if it's just me, but I'd like some players to use combo pass rushing style and I'd like to have a VA to help on that, just like there is one for evasive and bull rushing. Maybe a new VA that help combo rushers or just make the actual VAs help on that too. Shouldn't be hard to add and seems only fair to me.
+1. One would expect that the unpredictability would create some advantage for the pass rusher.
kadafitcd
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Just like Halfbacks you either have to be set on -50 power for bruiser to work or +50 elusive for Slippery to work. What about a Break Tackle piece for combo backs... This deserves it's own thread.
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i say it should just work since combo rushing is just a coin flip. heads i bull rush tails i rush on evasive setting.
y not when using the combo setting if on that particular play u are bull rushing any va that has to do with bull rushing should activate same goes with evasive setting.
thoughts?
y not when using the combo setting if on that particular play u are bull rushing any va that has to do with bull rushing should activate same goes with evasive setting.
thoughts?
Ken1
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Originally posted by Diamond Spade
i say it should just work since combo rushing is just a coin flip. heads i bull rush tails i rush on evasive setting.
y not when using the combo setting if on that particular play u are bull rushing any va that has to do with bull rushing should activate same goes with evasive setting.
That should happen too, and for all we know maybe it does.
But even if it does, pass rushing on combo should have its own bonus VA, as there should be some reward for the unpredictability. Potential VA:
Keep Them Guessing: When this player mixes up his type of pass rushing, opponents get confused sometimes. When on Combo pass rush, each level of Keep Them Guessing gives a +4% chance to give a +20% bonus to breaking pass blocks that play.
(Figuring that the other 40% of the time that it fails when maxed he didn't mask his pass rush well enough to gain the bonus. The 20% bonus isn't excessive; you can get 30% from maxed Technique Man, and this one you'd have to roll to get any bonus at all).
i say it should just work since combo rushing is just a coin flip. heads i bull rush tails i rush on evasive setting.
y not when using the combo setting if on that particular play u are bull rushing any va that has to do with bull rushing should activate same goes with evasive setting.
That should happen too, and for all we know maybe it does.
But even if it does, pass rushing on combo should have its own bonus VA, as there should be some reward for the unpredictability. Potential VA:
Keep Them Guessing: When this player mixes up his type of pass rushing, opponents get confused sometimes. When on Combo pass rush, each level of Keep Them Guessing gives a +4% chance to give a +20% bonus to breaking pass blocks that play.
(Figuring that the other 40% of the time that it fails when maxed he didn't mask his pass rush well enough to gain the bonus. The 20% bonus isn't excessive; you can get 30% from maxed Technique Man, and this one you'd have to roll to get any bonus at all).
Luzod
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Originally posted by Diamond Spade
i say it should just work since combo rushing is just a coin flip. heads i bull rush tails i rush on evasive setting.
y not when using the combo setting if on that particular play u are bull rushing any va that has to do with bull rushing should activate same goes with evasive setting.
thoughts?
yeah... but would cost 2x the number of VAs to get it going... seems really underpowered
i say it should just work since combo rushing is just a coin flip. heads i bull rush tails i rush on evasive setting.
y not when using the combo setting if on that particular play u are bull rushing any va that has to do with bull rushing should activate same goes with evasive setting.
thoughts?
yeah... but would cost 2x the number of VAs to get it going... seems really underpowered
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Originally posted by Luzod
yeah... but would cost 2x the number of VAs to get it going... seems really underpowered
I agree Combo pass rushing is underpowered right now (when in reality nearly everyone does some sort of combo to keep the O-Line off balance; it may be 90-10, but I don't think many people either power rush or evasive rush every single play).
Builds that can do both types of pass rushing, and thus can run on Combo, should be rewarded.
I think that not only should the VAs for the type of pass rushing a Combo rusher is doing on a play be active, but Combo should also get its own VA. Back to my suggestion:
Keep Them Guessing: When this player mixes up his type of pass rushing, opponents get confused sometimes. When on Combo pass rush, each level of Keep Them Guessing gives a +4% chance to gain a +20% bonus to breaking pass blocks that play.
(Figuring that the other 40% of the time that it fails when maxed he didn't mask his pass rush-- it was obvious from the start-- well enough to gain the bonus. The 20% bonus isn't excessive; you can get 30% from maxed Technique Man, and this one you'd have to roll to get any bonus at all).
yeah... but would cost 2x the number of VAs to get it going... seems really underpowered
I agree Combo pass rushing is underpowered right now (when in reality nearly everyone does some sort of combo to keep the O-Line off balance; it may be 90-10, but I don't think many people either power rush or evasive rush every single play).
Builds that can do both types of pass rushing, and thus can run on Combo, should be rewarded.
I think that not only should the VAs for the type of pass rushing a Combo rusher is doing on a play be active, but Combo should also get its own VA. Back to my suggestion:
Keep Them Guessing: When this player mixes up his type of pass rushing, opponents get confused sometimes. When on Combo pass rush, each level of Keep Them Guessing gives a +4% chance to gain a +20% bonus to breaking pass blocks that play.
(Figuring that the other 40% of the time that it fails when maxed he didn't mask his pass rush-- it was obvious from the start-- well enough to gain the bonus. The 20% bonus isn't excessive; you can get 30% from maxed Technique Man, and this one you'd have to roll to get any bonus at all).
Edited by Ken1 on Apr 7, 2012 11:46:28
kwankwan
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They would have to copy the OL VAs somewhat.
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Like the OL VAs, Pocket Crusher and Technique Man could give +1% (instead of +2%) to players set on combo pass rush.
That would be an easy fix and probably not be gamebreaking either.
So...
Like the OL VAs, Pocket Crusher and Technique Man could give +1% (instead of +2%) to players set on combo pass rush.
That would be an easy fix and probably not be gamebreaking either.
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