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Rage Kinard
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1884892&pbp_id=952456 - cover 3, with nobody running underneath routes, the players in deep zone should be going down field with the receivers, when the receiver goes through their zone.

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Originally posted by SteveMax58
I think it should probably be the pairing of zone coverage that has automatic behaviors. The 1st part (Shallow/Medium/Deep) should dictate the defenders behavior and the 2nd part should dictate placement. Feel free to change the name of the 1st part as I think those names are kind of redundant currently, but should be renamed to Strict/Default/Safe (or something like that) where:

STRICT = Adhere to zone regardless of receivers entering & leaving zone
DEFAULT = Adhere to zone until receiver enters and attempts to leave zone. Defender will then (vision+chemistry) check if there is another defender with Man OR Zone responsibility of receiver & will follow VERTICALLY if no other defender does. Will follow 5 yds beyond zone HORIZONTALLY ONLY. If more than 1 receiver is found in the FS zone, FS will (vision+chemistry) check to follow the receiver that is uncovered (if applicable).
SAFE = Adhere to zone until receiver enters and attempts to leave zone. Defender will follow VERTICALLY and NOT check if any other defender has responsibility. Will follow 5 yds beyond zone HORIZONTALLY ONLY. If more than 1 receiver is found in the FS zone, FS will (vision+chemistry) check to follow the receiver that is uncovered (if applicable).


So the coupling of these (FS examples) might look something like this:

Cover Zone STRICT/Deep Weak Half = FS will patrol the Deep Half as normal. When a receiver enters zone, FS will move to cover and follow ONLY within his assigned zone. Receiver leaves, FS checks for others in his zone & refocuses to center of zone if none are found.
Cover Zone DEFAULT/Under Weak Third = FS will go to Under Weak third as normal. If receiver enters & attempts to leave zone, FS will check to see if receiver has coverage. If not...he follows VERTICALLY & no more than 5 yds HORIZONTALLY. If he has coverage...FS does not follow & refocuses on his zone.
Cover Zone SAFE/Flat Weak = FS will go to Flat Zone as normal. When a receiver enters zone, FS will follow the receiver VERTICALLY regardless of whether there is already man coverage on the receiver.

Edited by Rage Kinard on Dec 28, 2011 02:13:11
 
merenoise
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Skoll Wolfrun
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Originally posted by merenoise
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If nothing else, a 'Stay with Deepest' option for Deep Zones.
Edited by Skoll Wolfrun on Dec 25, 2011 11:50:23
 
SteveMax58
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Yeah, selecting "Cover Zone Deep" (As opposed to Shallow or Medium) should automatically tell the defender "don't let receivers by you".
 
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Originally posted by merenoise
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Dr. E
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Deep zones need help. Defenders need to be more effective in them. Maybe alter ball hawk a bit to be killer the deeper the pass.
 
Chysil
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this is a given for anyone whose ever played a deep zone in real football.

NEVER let someone by here
 
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Originally posted by Chysil
this is a given for anyone whose ever played a deep zone in real football.

NEVER let someone by here


 
SteveMax58
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I think it should probably be the pairing of zone coverage that has automatic behaviors. The 1st part (Shallow/Medium/Deep) should dictate the defenders behavior and the 2nd part should dictate placement. Feel free to change the name of the 1st part as I think those names are kind of redundant currently, but should be renamed to Strict/Default/Safe (or something like that) where:

STRICT = Adhere to zone regardless of receivers entering & leaving zone
DEFAULT = Adhere to zone until receiver enters and attempts to leave zone. Defender will then (vision+chemistry) check if there is another defender with Man OR Zone responsibility of receiver & will follow VERTICALLY if no other defender does. Will follow 5 yds beyond zone HORIZONTALLY ONLY. If more than 1 receiver is found in the FS zone, FS will (vision+chemistry) check to follow the receiver that is uncovered (if applicable).
SAFE = Adhere to zone until receiver enters and attempts to leave zone. Defender will follow VERTICALLY and NOT check if any other defender has responsibility. Will follow 5 yds beyond zone HORIZONTALLY ONLY. If more than 1 receiver is found in the FS zone, FS will (vision+chemistry) check to follow the receiver that is uncovered (if applicable).


So the coupling of these (FS examples) might look something like this:

Cover Zone STRICT/Deep Weak Half = FS will patrol the Deep Half as normal. When a receiver enters zone, FS will move to cover and follow ONLY within his assigned zone. Receiver leaves, FS checks for others in his zone & refocuses to center of zone if none are found.
Cover Zone DEFAULT/Under Weak Third = FS will go to Under Weak third as normal. If receiver enters & attempts to leave zone, FS will check to see if receiver has coverage. If not...he follows VERTICALLY & no more than 5 yds HORIZONTALLY. If he has coverage...FS does not follow & refocuses on his zone.
Cover Zone SAFE/Flat Weak = FS will go to Flat Zone as normal. When a receiver enters zone, FS will follow the receiver VERTICALLY regardless of whether there is already man coverage on the receiver.
 
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Dr. E
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Originally posted by SteveMax58
I think it should probably be the pairing of zone coverage that has automatic behaviors. The 1st part (Shallow/Medium/Deep) should dictate the defenders behavior and the 2nd part should dictate placement. Feel free to change the name of the 1st part as I think those names are kind of redundant currently, but should be renamed to Strict/Default/Safe (or something like that) where:

STRICT = Adhere to zone regardless of receivers entering & leaving zone
DEFAULT = Adhere to zone until receiver enters and attempts to leave zone. Defender will then (vision+chemistry) check if there is another defender with Man OR Zone responsibility of receiver & will follow VERTICALLY if no other defender does. Will follow 5 yds beyond zone HORIZONTALLY ONLY. If more than 1 receiver is found in the FS zone, FS will (vision+chemistry) check to follow the receiver that is uncovered (if applicable).
SAFE = Adhere to zone until receiver enters and attempts to leave zone. Defender will follow VERTICALLY and NOT check if any other defender has responsibility. Will follow 5 yds beyond zone HORIZONTALLY ONLY. If more than 1 receiver is found in the FS zone, FS will (vision+chemistry) check to follow the receiver that is uncovered (if applicable).


So the coupling of these (FS examples) might look something like this:

Cover Zone STRICT/Deep Weak Half = FS will patrol the Deep Half as normal. When a receiver enters zone, FS will move to cover and follow ONLY within his assigned zone. Receiver leaves, FS checks for others in his zone & refocuses to center of zone if none are found.
Cover Zone DEFAULT/Under Weak Third = FS will go to Under Weak third as normal. If receiver enters & attempts to leave zone, FS will check to see if receiver has coverage. If not...he follows VERTICALLY & no more than 5 yds HORIZONTALLY. If he has coverage...FS does not follow & refocuses on his zone.
Cover Zone SAFE/Flat Weak = FS will go to Flat Zone as normal. When a receiver enters zone, FS will follow the receiver VERTICALLY regardless of whether there is already man coverage on the receiver.


Something like this sounds good.
 
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Originally posted by merenoise
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