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Why?

Well because the competitive level drop is too large going from Gold to Silver. There are way too many CPU teams or player owned teams with all CPU players in Silver to make it much of a competitive league. If you cut the number of Silver leagues by half, you basically drop the bottom half of Silver back down to Copper, thus making Silver much more competitive.

Of course some promotion/demotion changes would have to be made. Instead of only the Silver league champion going to Gold, both teams that make the championship game would be promoted. Also, every Silver division would get a demoted Gold team, which evens things out more.

I also think there should be promotion & demotions between Silver and Copper. Just like with Gold/Silver, the bottom teams from Silver will be demoted to Copper and the top Copper teams would be promoted to Silver. What I think would work is keep the same demotion process as you have in Gold, the bottom 4 teams from each Silver division get demoted to Copper. To promote enough teams from the 8 Copper leagues, you would need to promote all teams that make the conference championship games, so 4 teams from each Copper league.

There are several reasons why a change like this would be better. First is that the competitive level of the leagues will be more defined and the teams at the various levels will mainly play other teams at their own level.

Second is that people new to owning/running a PW team won't get bumped out of Copper before they are ready. Some of those new owners need a couple season of playing lower level teams to figure things out. If they get thrown into Silver their 2nd season and get killed frequently, they might loose interest and quit GLB.

Third is there would be a sense of accomplishment in the move from Copper to Silver. The reverse is also true, if your team doesn't measure up to the Silver level of play, they get demoted back to Copper to work things out.

Fourth is that by removing 4 leagues total, you will get rid of most of the CPU teams that clutter the various leagues.

Fifth is because the level of Silver play will rise, Silver No-No teams owned and/or run by Gold talent won't have as easy of a time making it to Gold.


Thoughts?

+1

agreed. haven't we been saying this for like 3 season now?

I would love to see a 1-4-8 structure. Here are some ideas on promotion schemes.

Promotion Option 1:

Silver promotes all conference champs and gold drops bottom 8
Copper promotes conference champs and runner ups and each silver drops 8

Promotion Option 2: (Make playoffs or get demoted)

Silver promotes conference champs and runner ups and gold drops 16 (anyone who didn't make playoffs)
Copper promotes top 8 and each silver drops bottom 16 (anyone who didn't make playoffs

Promotion Option 3: (Gold must make playoffs)
Silver promotes conference champs and runner ups and gold drops 16 (anyone who didn't make playoffs)
Copper promotes conference champs and runner ups and each silver drops 8

I like the idea, except that would force alot of no/no teams to either spend more flex or be in the bottom of the league. And for an owner like myself where I make 3/4 of my team, that would get to expensive and I probably wouldn't continue.

If Gold drops 16 there will be nothing to play for in the Silver CGs.

I'd propose to dissolve Gold for a season or two if this is implemented and allow some of us hangers-on to have to earn our way back in. Some teams have been around for a looong time and didn't necessarrily have to go through the gauntlet others had to (think 'silver reshuffle' and 'rivalry points' ).

Of course we'd sell some silver teams then and you'ld see the real Pee Wee problem outside of Gold isn't gold leaguers owning silver teams... but rather its the like 12 dudes that play pee wee besides us.

Originally posted by BobbyBoucher559
I like the idea, except that would force alot of no/no teams to either spend more flex or be in the bottom of the league. And for an owner like myself where I make 3/4 of my team, that would get to expensive and I probably wouldn't continue.

I don't think that would be the case. There just are not many teams that are full boost and custom anymore, and you would expect those to be in Gold. Only the best no-no teams would make it to Gold, while Silver would be full of them. It would be true that more of the silver champions would likely be yes-yes teams, but considering their promotion to Gold, isn't that what you would want?

They should change something.........

I would be ok with 1-2-4...............

But Bort would be better off creating a PeeWee Style league (One and Done) that starts at lvl 20 or so.....

Originally posted by Nif
I'd propose to dissolve Gold for a season or two if this is implemented and allow some of us hangers-on to have to earn our way back in. Some teams have been around for a looong time and didn't necessarrily have to go through the gauntlet others had to (think 'silver reshuffle' and 'rivalry points' ).

Of course we'd sell some silver teams then and you'ld see the real Pee Wee problem outside of Gold isn't gold leaguers owning silver teams... but rather its the like 12 dudes that play pee wee besides us.

This is interesting...

Originally posted by Bevo05

I would be ok with 1-2-4...............



That would be awesome, the two games I have played in silver so far sucks. No competition, hope something will get done.

Originally posted by Bevo05

But Bort would be better off creating a PeeWee Style league (One and Done) that starts at lvl 20 or so.....

Bort himself started a suggestion thread about lvl 40 one and done dots last year which received tons of positive support but nothing ever came of it.

I dug up the old thread a couple of times to bump it. I'm sure it's been moved to the graveyard by now.

1-2-4 is too few PW teams. You have to think of GLB like a business and there is no way Bort will cut PW down that much. My idea of 1-4-8 isn't very far off from the current 1-8-8.

Or you could do 2-4-8 and rename Gold to PW Elite, Silver to PW Competitive, and Copper to PW Casual, or something like that.

I liked having no gold, it allowed debate for what team was the best with all those tourney's, maybe like just 8 peewee leagues.