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frk203
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which one would be better? player is level 56 and has 85+ agility and 120+ speed

 
Sooner_Nation
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Juke. Most will probably say spin because of the last few seasons. Has spin been nerfed yet? Also I think the returner doesn't loose as much forward speed when he jukes compared to spins.
 
Longhornfan1024
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Spin, because it's better.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Spin, because it's better.



The great one has spoken...

 
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But then again, there's this guy who doesn't have either.


Last game two teams both 75 overall.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4696068
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4703165
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4703479
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4703607

Gentlemen, welcome to the badass club.


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Longhornfan1024
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Originally posted by Sooner_Nation
But then again, there's this guy who doesn't have either.


Last game two teams both 75 overall.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4696068
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4696531
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4698205
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4698943
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4699215
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4699632
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4700223
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4700438
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4700653
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4701034
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4701525
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4701944
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4702238
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4702843
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4703165
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4703281
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4703479
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1449519&pbp_id=4703607

Gentlemen, welcome to the badass club.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/hof.pl?all_time=0&type=st



Bring him to a real league, bro.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Bring him to a real league, bro.


We just beat 5 straight real league teams in scrims my friend. Looking for a scrim big daddy?
 
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Originally posted by Sooner_Nation
We just beat 5 straight real league teams in scrims my friend. Looking for a scrim big daddy?


I only see one "good" team over your last 5 scrims, tbh. Even then, I'm not sure how good they are, they just look good due to their record in OPL. The reason I say that is because if you if you put an elite kr/pr (which your guy surely is) in A-AAA, he'll absolutely tear it up. Even in many Pro leagues, an appropriately leveled kr/pr will have some pretty insane games (WL is a different story) sprinkled in with some normal games. As far as I can tell from what I've seen of Casual Pro, you could compare the quality of dots there with that A-AAA range for the most part. There are certain teams, like yours, that have good dots, but they are playing against teams that wouldn't sniff another pro league. To get a real judgment of how good a dot is, you have to have them play against the best regularly. Playing in Casual Pro while having a few scrimmages against decent to bad teams from other pro leagues is sort of the GLB equivalent of Boise State playing in a non-AQ and having a few non-conference games against BCS teams. Is Kellen Moore a good QB? Sure, but can you say he is as good as a Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy? That's a hard argument to make. Hell, he might not even be as good as a Christian Ponder if he were put in the same situation. I'd really like to see your kr/pr in the WL to get a much better judgment on how good a juke based kr/pr can be in a league like that.
 
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Well, I've known you long enough to know That "you know" Special Teams. I know you tried to recruit my guy once. But I don't know if you know that Diablo is "the Dynasty Team" in Casual Pro. So help hook us up with a WL scrim? We won't mind losing to a WL team. Would your WL team mind losing to us?
Edited by Sooner_Nation on Nov 27, 2010 17:46:49
 
Longhornfan1024
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Originally posted by Sooner_Nation
Well, I've known you long enough to know That "you know" Special Teams. I know you tried to recruit my guy once. But I don't know if you know that Diablo is "the Dynasty Team" in Casual Pro. So help hook us up with a WL scrim? We won't mind losing to a WL team. Would your WL team mind losing to us?


Well the only current WL team that I'm actually associated with is Hali, but I don't have anything to do with the management. If your owner wants to send a challenge and see if it gets accepted, that would be cool, but I'd have no say so in whether Gart accepts or even game plans at all.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Well the only current WL team that I'm actually associated with is Hali, but I don't have anything to do with the management. If your owner wants to send a challenge and see if it gets accepted, that would be cool, but I'd have no say so in whether Gart accepts or even game plans at all.


Understood. But I think Gart most likely has much respect for you and your knowledge of this game, just as I know I do. You could persuade him?
 
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Originally posted by Sooner_Nation
Understood. But I think Gart most likely has much respect for you and your knowledge of this game, just as I know I do. You could persuade him?


Maybe. I know CV would take a scrimmage on my behalf, but we'd have to wait until our OC gets back. He's been gone all season due to his wife having a baby. I suppose if it's just casual, we could scrimmage without him. How does a scrimmage work between an AI and casual team?
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Maybe. I know CV would take a scrimmage on my behalf, but we'd have to wait until our OC gets back. He's been gone all season due to his wife having a baby. I suppose if it's just casual, we could scrimmage without him. How does a scrimmage work between an AI and casual team?


Usually, you would turn off your AI and go basic just like us. You're an old man, you should remember those days?
 
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Originally posted by Sooner_Nation
Usually, you would turn off your AI and go basic just like us. You're an old man, you should remember those days?


Ha. The only team I've owned I've had for about 4 seasons, and I've only gameplanned for one game the whole time. I stay clear of all that complicated AI stuff; I just build dots and let those who spend a lot more time on this game put them in the right place.
 
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I see Bangkok is casual. How's recruiting for the great lol?
 
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