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Have to laugh at this one.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1404945&pbp_id=7072040

I guess the HB just knocked the guy down and the QB slipped.
 
D~Town
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Originally posted by juiceweezl
Have to laugh at this one.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1404945&pbp_id=7072040

I guess the HB just knocked the guy down and the QB slipped.


Hmmm.

I guess the ball carrier tripped over the DB? Just so happened to be right in his path?


I guess since there is a thread here I want to use it for constructive for an instance. Is this a vision problem or aggressive problem? In opinions.
The LOLB is designed to cover TE first and HB strong and WR2 in that order. For some reason he immediately goes after the HB. He does not have relentless pursuit or anything, but looks like he has a bead on HB and never came off of it. I will post play and build.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1419362&pbp_id=6816241

TX LLB (Lv. 6 LB)
Ht/Wt: 6'4", 235lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
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Daily Salary: $2045
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Next Level: 490/1000

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Strength: 11.25
Speed: 65.5 (+10)
Agility: 24.5
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Vision: 23.5
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juiceweezl
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Weird, D. He does appear to draw a bead like it was a run play.
 
D~Town
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Originally posted by juiceweezl
Weird, D. He does appear to draw a bead like it was a run play.


Only thing I can fathom is that 100% agg working against him on this play.
I was going to dig up some other plays of the same caliber that he covers the TE.
Just take me a little time to go through play by play.

I had to use the MLB as support, because of shit like this.
This sim makes dual coordinator go ape shit. Can only seem to get things right on one side of the ball per game.
 
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Same play HB doesn't come to his side he is on TE man to man. Covers as designed http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1419362&pbp_id=6815896

Maybe have to use this D more. I am having to change everything from season 15-16 to play S18 at a decent rate. http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1419362&pbp_id=6815977
Edited by D~Town on Oct 8, 2010 12:26:20
Edited by D~Town on Oct 8, 2010 12:24:38
 
iStoner
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Just looks to me like the HB is in the progression before the TE, if that is not the case than this is a bug and should be reported as such.
 
juiceweezl
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Originally posted by Stoner DTD
Just looks to me like the HB is in the progression before the TE, if that is not the case than this is a bug and should be reported as such.


Except that the white progression line goes to WR2 and then to TE but never to the HB. No worries though. We'll soon have an Iphone app instead of a better SIM.
 
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Thanks for the feedback....I am still digging to find a play that that LB is in and an HB comes out on his side, to see if he abandons the TE again.

I only find plays that the HB goes to the weak side so far other than that one or the other LB is in there. Just trying to find the exact same scenario.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1419362&pbp_id=6820104 HB goes weak and LB covers TE.

But I need to find when the HB comes strong and see if the SS and LB both take HB. Damn I would like to reproduce this.
I wish there was an easier way to scan these plays other than 1 by 1.
 
iStoner
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Originally posted by juiceweezl
Except that the white progression line goes to WR2 and then to TE but never to the HB. No worries though. We'll soon have an Iphone app instead of a better SIM.


I mean the defensive coverage progressions, the coverage progressions mean nothing as to who covers who.

Who cares what has happened, is the defense set up having TE or HB first in the progression, if it does something other than that its a Bug, vision has nothing to do with man coverage assignment choices.
 
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Originally posted by Stoner DTD
Originally posted by juiceweezl

Except that the white progression line goes to WR2 and then to TE but never to the HB. No worries though. We'll soon have an Iphone app instead of a better SIM.


I mean the defensive coverage progressions, the coverage progressions mean nothing as to who covers who.

Who cares what has happened, is the defense set up having TE or HB first in the progression, if it does something other than that its a Bug, vision has nothing to do with man coverage assignment choices.


This. These almost always come back as an error in the custom defensive play. I'd double check your plays (even the ones that are set at 0%), I'm willing to bet one is off. And if not, it is indeed a bug.
Edited by PING72 on Oct 8, 2010 14:08:06
 
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Damn I still can't find a duplicate, In all honesty I can't even find the same play that the HB comes out on flare to strong side on pass. I have found 7+ other pones but HB goes weakside everytime. Never to strong.

Oh well I am just getting back into the game and digging stuff up makes me remember why I took a break.
I have found so much BS that you just can't fix.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1419220&pbp_id=5890525 Why CB man 2 man stops gives up on the play? It beehooves me.


Anyway back to my search to find a 3wr set that HB flares to strong side with TE running route.
 
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My impression on this is that if the LB is set to run focus in tactics and has low vision (coupled with 100 aggression) it will occasionally do something like this. Basically it is incorrectly reading a run and going after it HARD. I've seen similar things with my safeties.
 
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No... it is not set up as defined by:

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Players set to "man" coverage will automatically line up across from their man when plays are simmed, and will cover the first man in their progression who is on the field, regardless of what that man is set to do. If the selected man does not run a route, the player will proceed to the next assignment in the player's progression till the defender either reaches an assignment on a route or play a short zone or blitz instead based on your settings. Players who are set to "man w/o move" will play man coverage in the same way, but will start from where they are positioned.


I read this as meaning that the decision on who to cover occurs before that play occurs and that there is no chance that your players will mis-choose their coverages from the listed progressions.

There is a chance that a player set to aggressive will choose to ignore a route and blitz, but he will never choose to just cover another player in his progressions when the first person is indeed on a route.


 


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