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Waagh
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It seems kinda pointless to me, but I've never used it myself so obviously I'm not an expert.
 
trichome1
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Does it show on replays if it fires? Ive never seen it.
 
Waagh
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I've never seen it get used either which is part of what made me ask in the first place...
 
dviss1
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Originally posted by Waagh
I've never seen it get used either which is part of what made me ask in the first place...


It fires. And it shows up on the replay.

However, it is not really needed if you have a good line.
 
Dynames
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Originally posted by dviss1
Originally posted by Waagh

I've never seen it get used either which is part of what made me ask in the first place...


It fires. And it shows up on the replay.

However, it is not really needed if you have a good line.


Could you please post a link of it firing?
 
ReMeDy
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I think it's worthless imho. Yea it works, but in the grand scheme of what a QB COULD be spending his SP's on, it's worthless. I'd recommend using AEQ on Field Gen to dodge the SA entirely. Let your o-line protect your QB. If your QB is getting touched more than, say +5 times a game, then your o-line and or play-calling sucks. It's not a QB's job to be dodging tackles, so don't compromise his build by turning him into Superman.
Edited by ReMeDy on Sep 11, 2010 18:38:01
Edited by ReMeDy on Sep 10, 2010 19:17:02
 
Murkine
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Originally posted by Dynames
Could you please post a link of it firing?


It rarely fires (as most people don't put many points into it) and I'm not sure if it shows up in the pbp description.

Finding it would honestly be really hard. So I'm not going to go look for a replay. You will simply have to take my word for it.

All this said, I wouldn't put too many points into it.

Only enough to get Field General to 4 IMO. That way with CEQ and AEQ FG goes to 10 pretty easily.

If anyone has a reply of it firing, that would be nice. You could also probably ask a moderator.
 
dviss1
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Originally posted by Murkine
Originally posted by Dynames

Could you please post a link of it firing?


It rarely fires (as most people don't put many points into it) and I'm not sure if it shows up in the pbp description.

Finding it would honestly be really hard. So I'm not going to go look for a replay. You will simply have to take my word for it.

All this said, I wouldn't put too many points into it.

Only enough to get Field General to 4 IMO. That way with CEQ and AEQ FG goes to 10 pretty easily.

If anyone has a reply of it firing, that would be nice. You could also probably ask a moderator.


This is pretty much what I was gonna say..
 
DiMo28
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Sorry, I don't have a replay of it firing, but you will see it in the replay. It looks like it should be a sack, but the defensive player will fall down at his feet or slide off to the side. You will ask yourself, "How the hell did he not make the sack?!" Answer: Turn the shoulder.

I only put a couple of points on my pocket QB and don't recall seeing it fire on him (just added this past season) so you likely would have to invest several levels to see it work well and that is an investment most people don't make.
 
dviss1
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Originally posted by DiMo28
Sorry, I don't have a replay of it firing, but you will see it in the replay. It looks like it should be a sack, but the defensive player will fall down at his feet or slide off to the side. You will ask yourself, "How the hell did he not make the sack?!" Answer: Turn the shoulder.

I only put a couple of points on my pocket QB and don't recall seeing it fire on him (just added this past season) so you likely would have to invest several levels to see it work well and that is an investment most people don't make.


It does actually say "Turn shoulder" when it triggers too. The reason why it is so rare is because no one usually puts points into it.
 
Ravenwood
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It's crap. I had 10 in it (with an AEQ), along with 15 in the 'scrambler' VA. Never saw it fire in 3 seasons. Just recently sold it, and turned the BTs into skill points.
 
zamtik
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I am not a supporter of it but I did see it fire today in a scrim so here you go for those that wanted to see it .

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1357914&pbp_id=1695807
 
Dynames
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Originally posted by zamtik
I am not a supporter of it but I did see it fire today in a scrim so here you go for those that wanted to see it .

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1357914&pbp_id=1695807


How many points do you currently have on it?
Edited by Dynames on Sep 22, 2010 15:09:16
 
zamtik
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Oh sorry that was not actually my QB I just noticed it when my team played them while watching the scrim .
 
Dynames
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Originally posted by zamtik
Oh sorry that was not actually my QB I just noticed it when my team played them while watching the scrim .


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