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Patrickd12
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Attributes:
strength : 32
speed : 90.3
agility : 81.97
jumping : 72.49
stamina : 52.83
vision : 57.67
confidence : 45.36
blocking : 6
throwing : 8
catching : 75.35
carrying : 49.16
tackling : 8
kicking : 8
punting : 8

Top SA Tree: | 2 | 4 | 8 | 6 | 0 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 7 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 4 |

What do you think of this build without any EQ at lvl 73.
 
Dynames
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I think confidence could be slightly higher, but good build overall.
 
HULK
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Originally posted by Patrickd12
Attributes:
strength : 32
speed : 90.3
agility : 81.97
jumping : 72.49
stamina : 52.83
vision : 57.67
confidence : 45.36
blocking : 6
throwing : 8
catching : 75.35
carrying : 49.16
tackling : 8
kicking : 8
punting : 8

Top SA Tree: | 2 | 4 | 8 | 6 | 0 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 7 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 4 |

What do you think of this build without any EQ at lvl 73.


How much higher could you get speed if you only 1st capped jumping and pulled back on the possesion SAs?
 
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Originally posted by HULK
How much higher could you get speed if you only 1st capped jumping and pulled back on the possesion SAs?


closer to 100 pretty easily.
 
MileHighShoes
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right now, for a speedster, i would say switch jumping and carrying, carrying makes you faster.
 
Patrickd12
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Well I'll tell you that I was looking at all eq to speed. So he would end up with 148 speed.
 
Worker 3
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148 speed on a WR with archetypes isnt that much. CBs will easily be running around with 130+, a >18 point advantage in speed isnt going to help you much. you really should aim for 160.

and as mentioned earlier, cut back on the possession tree. if you want any SA in that tree, its probably route run. alos, you might want to try and get stamina higher than that. 61 cap it.
 
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Attributes:
strength : 42
speed : 91.3
agility : 81.97
jumping : 54.49
stamina : 64.83
vision : 53.69
confidence : 63.36
blocking : 6
throwing : 8
catching : 77.35
carrying : 63.16
tackling : 8
kicking : 8
punting : 8

Top SA Tree: | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 4 | 7 | 3 | 6 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 4 |

What about this build?

Would go all speed on EQ to 149. Put a piece with QC and the other with FS, one with % catch and the other I have to think about.
 
The_Jonas
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I think when people see a 160 speed WR with 10 FS and 10 QC, they're going to be very disappointed that he's not as much faster than a 145 WR with 10 FS and QC as they think it should be.
 
Djinnt
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Originally posted by The_Jonas
I think when people see a 160 speed WR with 10 FS and 10 QC, they're going to be very disappointed that he's not as much faster than a 145 WR with 10 FS and QC as they think it should be.


But what does he do better at 145 speed and how great is the difference between either outcome?
 
Dynames
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Originally posted by Djinnt
Originally posted by The_Jonas

I think when people see a 160 speed WR with 10 FS and 10 QC, they're going to be very disappointed that he's not as much faster than a 145 WR with 10 FS and QC as they think it should be.


But what does he do better at 145 speed and how great is the difference between either outcome?


His other attributes are better resulting in a better overall build.
 
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Originally posted by Dynames
His other attributes are better resulting in a better overall build.


No, I mean exactly what does it go into? It's important to evaluate it without any assumption.
Say for example the 15 extra speed points nets you... 30 extra jumping and 10 more catching, or 20 jumping and 20 strength or something like this. Or maybe it's only 25 in some lower attribute, or maybe it means being able to spend more on an SA and not having to get AEQ for it.
You have to evaluate whether the 15 speed is worth as much, more, or less than the other things you might spend those points on.
 
Patrickd12
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Lets put it this way, 15 speed points at that level will be at a min 90 skill points, most likely closer to 120 skill points. Now with that being said, you are probably looking at between 25 and 45 att points in other atts. I would look at it as 12 more jumping, 12 more carrying, going from 68 to 77 in catching and 20 more strength. To me that is better then 165 speed, which I don't think is going to help that much in separation then 145. Both will be superior to the CB's at the WL in speed.
 
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yeah, you can obviously get more attributes up more if you did just go with 145, but how will that help you when a CB probably already has you beat in those attributes? better to play to your strength imo, than to fortify a weakness.

is the 15 points of speed better used elsewhere? yes... if you want to look at it efficiency wise. but, if you wanna look it it production wise, i would probably give the edge to the dot with 15 more speed.
 
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Originally posted by Worker 3
yeah, you can obviously get more attributes up more if you did just go with 145, but how will that help you when a CB probably already has you beat in those attributes? better to play to your strength imo, than to fortify a weakness.

is the 15 points of speed better used elsewhere? yes... if you want to look at it efficiency wise. but, if you wanna look it it production wise, i would probably give the edge to the dot with 15 more speed.


What base speed are we talking about. 102 or so.

I'm not running it through the builder but I'd say you would need to bring speed to 94 ish base straight off the bat and allow ALGs to bring it the rest of the way. Do you really think its worth spending 14 SP for one point of speed?
 
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