banning me from our own team forum for asking a couple of questions through pm.and there wasnt anything in my messages that were even hateful in the way they were presented.I just dont understand!
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Sounds like the owner doesn't like questions asked. Might want to try to get out A.S.A.P!
Players + No Dialogue with management = Disaster
Players + No Dialogue with management = Disaster
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I dont want it to be a bad situation at all and this is the only time I am going to bring it up,since I cant ask him anything in my own team forum.what will probably happen is I just let my contract run out and leave it as a lesson learned...which is get to know your owner well before you ask too many questions lol
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"for asking a couple of questions"
You didn't just ask a couple of questions......
#1 When I signed you, I was very open & honest that you were the #2 QB. I had heard injuries might take effect this season and I wanted to make sure we had a backup. Our #1 QB is a much higher level, and has much more stamina than you, and you knew you wouldn't get a ton of playing time unless there was an injury and I was up front and honest about this before you signed.
#2 Right after game 1, you send an PMs demanding a trade or release because of playing time. I said that I didn't want to hurt my team chemistry and I didn't think it was fair for the whole team to suffer from a chemistry hit, especially when things were exactly the way I represented them. I told you I would try to get you some playing time when we played some really weak teams but that was several games away and you said you were fine with this.
#3 Right after game 2, you hit me with multiple PMs requesting out for the same rehashed reasons. Right then, I knew you were not rational and from past experience in this game, I immediately banned you from the team forum.
Players on our team know I am not going to block someone from our forum for "asking a couple of questions". Why people in this game sign as backups (when they are told they will be backups) and then get upset and demand to get out of their contracts because they are backups, is beyond me. Chemistry took a severe hit on our team the 2nd half of last year and our entire off-season was structured around not having to make moves during the season and I'm not going to screw everyone because you won't honor your commitment.
You didn't just ask a couple of questions......
#1 When I signed you, I was very open & honest that you were the #2 QB. I had heard injuries might take effect this season and I wanted to make sure we had a backup. Our #1 QB is a much higher level, and has much more stamina than you, and you knew you wouldn't get a ton of playing time unless there was an injury and I was up front and honest about this before you signed.
#2 Right after game 1, you send an PMs demanding a trade or release because of playing time. I said that I didn't want to hurt my team chemistry and I didn't think it was fair for the whole team to suffer from a chemistry hit, especially when things were exactly the way I represented them. I told you I would try to get you some playing time when we played some really weak teams but that was several games away and you said you were fine with this.
#3 Right after game 2, you hit me with multiple PMs requesting out for the same rehashed reasons. Right then, I knew you were not rational and from past experience in this game, I immediately banned you from the team forum.
Players on our team know I am not going to block someone from our forum for "asking a couple of questions". Why people in this game sign as backups (when they are told they will be backups) and then get upset and demand to get out of their contracts because they are backups, is beyond me. Chemistry took a severe hit on our team the 2nd half of last year and our entire off-season was structured around not having to make moves during the season and I'm not going to screw everyone because you won't honor your commitment.
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I hope things turn out ok for everyone involved. I know that there are two sides to every story. Good Luck to both of you.
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Originally posted by hutchins929
I hope things turn out ok for everyone involved. I know that there are two sides to every story. Good Luck to both of you.
Yeah there's the side of the mentally deranged and the side of the management, pick with one you'd like to fit best. I think it's highly unfair to demand opting out of a contract you signed into knowing you would be the back-up QB. If I was the owner and you'd pissed me off like this, I'd stick you at QB number three and wait until your contract was up just to prove a point. You made the decision to sign, don't start bashing the other team because you regret it.
I hope things turn out ok for everyone involved. I know that there are two sides to every story. Good Luck to both of you.
Yeah there's the side of the mentally deranged and the side of the management, pick with one you'd like to fit best. I think it's highly unfair to demand opting out of a contract you signed into knowing you would be the back-up QB. If I was the owner and you'd pissed me off like this, I'd stick you at QB number three and wait until your contract was up just to prove a point. You made the decision to sign, don't start bashing the other team because you regret it.
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Originally posted by Spudsy2061
Originally posted by hutchins929
I hope things turn out ok for everyone involved. I know that there are two sides to every story. Good Luck to both of you.
Yeah there's the side of the mentally deranged and the side of the management, pick with one you'd like to fit best. I think it's highly unfair to demand opting out of a contract you signed into knowing you would be the back-up QB. If I was the owner and you'd pissed me off like this, I'd stick you at QB number three and wait until your contract was up just to prove a point. You made the decision to sign, don't start bashing the other team because you regret it.
Even after he made his commitment by signing the contract, I still would release him in a heartbeat if that was his wish if it didn't affect my team's chemistry......but it does. I won't punish everyone for his flip-flopping on his commitment.
Originally posted by hutchins929
I hope things turn out ok for everyone involved. I know that there are two sides to every story. Good Luck to both of you.
Yeah there's the side of the mentally deranged and the side of the management, pick with one you'd like to fit best. I think it's highly unfair to demand opting out of a contract you signed into knowing you would be the back-up QB. If I was the owner and you'd pissed me off like this, I'd stick you at QB number three and wait until your contract was up just to prove a point. You made the decision to sign, don't start bashing the other team because you regret it.
Even after he made his commitment by signing the contract, I still would release him in a heartbeat if that was his wish if it didn't affect my team's chemistry......but it does. I won't punish everyone for his flip-flopping on his commitment.
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Originally posted by Frost Axenheimer
I won't punish everyone for his flip-flopping on his commitment.
John Kerry down?
I won't punish everyone for his flip-flopping on his commitment.
John Kerry down?
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In game one you it was your first game, cant start the backup the first game, and you had a solid match-up for the 2nd game. And the back-up is not going to play when your losing. If you were up front with the backup QB stating he would be a clear #2, I think you made the right call. you dont need to take the Chemistry hit with yours so low, trust me, i know what thats like. haha.
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Originally posted by Frost Axenheimer
"for asking a couple of questions"
You didn't just ask a couple of questions......
#1 When I signed you, I was very open & honest that you were the #2 QB. I had heard injuries might take effect this season and I wanted to make sure we had a backup. Our #1 QB is a much higher level, and has much more stamina than you, and you knew you wouldn't get a ton of playing time unless there was an injury and I was up front and honest about this before you signed.
#2 Right after game 1, you send an PMs demanding a trade or release because of playing time. I said that I didn't want to hurt my team chemistry and I didn't think it was fair for the whole team to suffer from a chemistry hit, especially when things were exactly the way I represented them. I told you I would try to get you some playing time when we played some really weak teams but that was several games away and you said you were fine with this.
#3 Right after game 2, you hit me with multiple PMs requesting out for the same rehashed reasons. Right then, I knew you were not rational and from past experience in this game, I immediately banned you from the team forum.
Players on our team know I am not going to block someone from our forum for "asking a couple of questions". Why people in this game sign as backups (when they are told they will be backups) and then get upset and demand to get out of their contracts because they are backups, is beyond me. Chemistry took a severe hit on our team the 2nd half of last year and our entire off-season was structured around not having to make moves during the season and I'm not going to screw everyone because you won't honor your commitment.
number 1 I knew going in I would be a back up,but was told he would see a couple of snaps here and there in games which was fine with me.after game one and not a down played I told you that you had an awesome number one qb and was a trade even a possibility!there was never in the conversation a demand.he told me that he would try to get me snaps and that it would cost the team in chemistry if he traded me....I was ok with that...it sounded kool with me..next game comes around and same thing happened no snaps whatsoever....now let me make this perfectly clear so there can be no question as to what actually happened.I sent him a simple pm that stated are you sure you wouldnt want to trade me for another position like a wr to help the team?I then find out I am banned from the private team forum and no responses from him at all from that point on....the next pm I ever sent him when I got no response was a simple if trade is out of the question would it be possible to shorten the length of the contract to day 37...this would help me get a jump on the next season...so you have to understand at this point I am ok with whatever he wants to do with my qb at this point as long as he has a chance to find a home for next season...this is the honest truth....he is exactly right on with what he said of my stamina...but hell I wasnt expecting to start a game just get a couple of snaps a game as promised....I am not stupid look at his starting qb hes level 19 with a ton of stamina.even I know I would never start a game beforehand!this is my last post on this I dont wanna get into a pissing he said he said contest on it...if he was able to do me the shortened length on my contract it would help take the sting off a little!
"for asking a couple of questions"
You didn't just ask a couple of questions......
#1 When I signed you, I was very open & honest that you were the #2 QB. I had heard injuries might take effect this season and I wanted to make sure we had a backup. Our #1 QB is a much higher level, and has much more stamina than you, and you knew you wouldn't get a ton of playing time unless there was an injury and I was up front and honest about this before you signed.
#2 Right after game 1, you send an PMs demanding a trade or release because of playing time. I said that I didn't want to hurt my team chemistry and I didn't think it was fair for the whole team to suffer from a chemistry hit, especially when things were exactly the way I represented them. I told you I would try to get you some playing time when we played some really weak teams but that was several games away and you said you were fine with this.
#3 Right after game 2, you hit me with multiple PMs requesting out for the same rehashed reasons. Right then, I knew you were not rational and from past experience in this game, I immediately banned you from the team forum.
Players on our team know I am not going to block someone from our forum for "asking a couple of questions". Why people in this game sign as backups (when they are told they will be backups) and then get upset and demand to get out of their contracts because they are backups, is beyond me. Chemistry took a severe hit on our team the 2nd half of last year and our entire off-season was structured around not having to make moves during the season and I'm not going to screw everyone because you won't honor your commitment.
number 1 I knew going in I would be a back up,but was told he would see a couple of snaps here and there in games which was fine with me.after game one and not a down played I told you that you had an awesome number one qb and was a trade even a possibility!there was never in the conversation a demand.he told me that he would try to get me snaps and that it would cost the team in chemistry if he traded me....I was ok with that...it sounded kool with me..next game comes around and same thing happened no snaps whatsoever....now let me make this perfectly clear so there can be no question as to what actually happened.I sent him a simple pm that stated are you sure you wouldnt want to trade me for another position like a wr to help the team?I then find out I am banned from the private team forum and no responses from him at all from that point on....the next pm I ever sent him when I got no response was a simple if trade is out of the question would it be possible to shorten the length of the contract to day 37...this would help me get a jump on the next season...so you have to understand at this point I am ok with whatever he wants to do with my qb at this point as long as he has a chance to find a home for next season...this is the honest truth....he is exactly right on with what he said of my stamina...but hell I wasnt expecting to start a game just get a couple of snaps a game as promised....I am not stupid look at his starting qb hes level 19 with a ton of stamina.even I know I would never start a game beforehand!this is my last post on this I dont wanna get into a pissing he said he said contest on it...if he was able to do me the shortened length on my contract it would help take the sting off a little!
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