Warrior General Games

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=3986641

here's the gist of it, 20 team or 15 team tournament depending on the agreed upon length of the tournament in which top teams from each league play each other each year, but stay in their home pro league. Then each year the top 2-4 teams in each league play each other determined by what's in this thread that is tl;tr

won't work. no thanks. no one cares about these and teams will just concentrate on their own league. look at the green bay maulers or other teams who then declare "lolscrim". The last thing people need are more games to gameplan for. Maybe pro teams who dominate 13/16 games who are bored but anyone who has actually been to WL knows it's definitely a challenging but fun experience

WL isn't meant for everyone. It's only meant for the elite of the elite. It's not a right for people to get there. Most are not good enough at GLB

This would be the same as a world league except it would force the WL teams to continually play their own league which would ensure that they are indeed the best of their league, as it stands now you get in once and you can stay in even if you maybe would not be the best team in your league.

If the tournament league is deemed too long you are always welcome to shorten it instead of 20 teams make it 15 and have 3 groups of 5 where you play 4 games in group stage then 6 teams are left for the bracket. That would be a total of 8 games per season and still have much the same effect.

best teams in GLB != best teams in shitty leagues

Well that's a whole nother suggestion

nobody wants to watch a bunch of scrubs play with the real teams. these tournaments are shitty. valhalla beating the best APL/WEPL team by 80 isn't better for GLB.

Originally posted by chronoaug
nobody wants to watch a bunch of scrubs play with the real teams. these tournaments are shitty. valhalla beating the best APL/WEPL team by 80 isn't better for GLB.

Nobody wants to watch Valhalla beat anyone. To his credit, alloy is a master dot builder and outfitted his team with many of his own masterpieces and got great coordinators. Now he's got a machine that he can dial up virtually any FA he wants and voila.

Valhalla is no more invincible in a Pro league than the Santiago Benitos were. Decline was going to end their dynasty, yet so many people argued we needed the WL because teams like that dominate their pro conferences every year.

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Valhalla is no more invincible in a Pro league than the Santiago Benitos were. Decline was going to end their dynasty, yet so many people argued we needed the WL because teams like that dominate their pro conferences every year.

these tournaments are awful though. no one cared before and there will again be teams not caring. At least there is no excuse over effort with WL. Not to mention that with how decline is now, and how the gap between the elite and above average is getting wider every season, i think it'd be a disservice to the good teams to have to slum it in Pros. Hell, has this season been that fun for chicago? a total of 1 maybe 2 challenging games? You dissolve WL and you again only have 3-4 challenging games and then a bunch of scrubs in Pro. People think it'll be like season 1-10 pro where the teams top to bottom were pretty solid and the top 14 had a chance for the playoffs and the 9 seed (Lincoln and Bullets before) could potentially beat a top 3 team. Won't be like that anymore as GLB has changed

They had this before with the "tournament of champions" or whatever it was called and no one really cared about it that much. I remember teams not gameplanning for it or losing and still saying "nah nah we're better". I'd rather see the Pro leagues adjusted more first. I'm sorry that 32 teams in 8 regions want to think they're good and give themselves Pro level buttpatts but they shouldn't be in Pro. It's not something you should earn just by not gutting for 10 seasons and having an almost full roster. I'd rather see 4 pro leagues and many teams never get to Pro but just die out in AAA that way Pro still remains something sought after. Makes people get better at the game too instead of all these scrubs getting to Pro with crappy builds and tactics, thinking they actually are good at GLB then getting stomped and then gut

I agree with Pro League reduction. Just personally, I think GLB is better off with 4 or 6 Pro leagues and no WL than it is with a 4 Pro and a WL.

Yaya, no one cares about tournaments. Still, if you had an actual GLB sanctioned tournament, and put say $100 of flex at, peeps would care enough for it to be a positive thing. No matter what most tourny games aren't gonna be gameplanned for if it happens during the regular games.

If you instead took the top 4 or 8 teams and ran a tourny til d44 or d46, with perhaps an announcement declaring the winner, along with a flex prize and GM champion trophies, I think you get gameplanning and the whole shabang without the negatives the WL brings about.

Tbh, one of my biggest problems with the WL is the 8 leagues into 1 league thing which is retarded. If GLB was condensed to 4 Pro's I might be a bigger fan of it. Still, realize that the mere existance of the WL basically takes premium AAA and mid-tier Pro teams out of consideration for every high end recruit in GLB (which imo is not good if you don't like a high pro gutrate). Also, extended plataue (which is being discussed) would help it not be a 2-3 team race at the Pro level.

Besides, I detest the entire notion that the WL > How pro leagues were > How pro leagues would be without a WL. USAPro aside, almost every pro has had a dominent team or two over the years which has mopped the floor. Without the WL, decline takes care of these teams and gives others a chance to improve. With the WL, you have the same 5-10 teams each season which can mop the floor on recruiting since they are a premium team in the concensus #1 league in GLB. Going 20-0 in the WL gives a MUCH bigger recruiting advantage than going 20-0 in a pro league, and thus the existance of the WL makes it easier for those top teams to remain on top than if there was not a WL.

My point being, without the WL these super teams do not exist after a couple years, so thinking "Blaze/Valhall would kill everyone in Pro" while perhaps true for 1-2 seasons, isn't necessarily true long term.

But the WL recruiting advantage will also make for those epic absolute top tier matchups. Having teams that are all able to win games in Pro go meet in one league, with a huge recruitment advantage.... that should show who is the best game-planner given that they all have access to the best players.

Only way this tournament would work is if it took place during the offseason, and that ain't too likely.

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
Valhalla is no more invincible in a Pro league than the Santiago Benitos were. Decline was going to end their dynasty, yet so many people argued we needed the WL because teams like that dominate their pro conferences every year.

Decline didnt end Benitos dynasty. It was Havoc stepping down that did. We never had that superior dots.

As for WL: Working as intended. People can always decline if they dont want to go up there.

non-forced promotion = another problem with the WL imo.

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
non-forced promotion = another problem with the WL imo.

pretty sure bort is forcing people this year unless they're gutting or resetting