Just hit 25 with my NT and wondering what the best VA's for NT's would be?
Hagalaz
offline
offline
Bull rush would be my first choice as well. After that, it's mostly a matter of preference. Common choices are stonewall, heavyweight, natural leader, power tackler, pocket crusher, pass rusher, etc. It depends on your defensive setup, what your NT's main task is, etc.
Since80
offline
offline
Originally posted by kcdizz
bull rush
For yourself.
Natch Leader is better for the team.
I'd go Natch Lead, Bull Rush, Heavyweight, Stonewall, and then on...
bull rush
For yourself.
Natch Leader is better for the team.
I'd go Natch Lead, Bull Rush, Heavyweight, Stonewall, and then on...
Hagalaz
offline
offline
Why will he go natural leader with no points in defense general other than the CEQ (assuming he has it) ? 
That's wasted VA points. Bad idea, wrong choice. Something that gives a bonus of 1% to 4 guys is worse than something that gives a bonus of 20% to one guy (numbers made up on the fly to explain the situation).

That's wasted VA points. Bad idea, wrong choice. Something that gives a bonus of 1% to 4 guys is worse than something that gives a bonus of 20% to one guy (numbers made up on the fly to explain the situation).
kcdizz
offline
offline
Originally posted by Hagalaz
Why will he go natural leader with no points in defense general other than the CEQ (assuming he has it) ?
That's wasted VA points. Bad idea, wrong choice. Something that gives a bonus of 1% to 4 guys is worse than something that gives a bonus of 20% to one guy (numbers made up on the fly to explain the situation).
+1 at level 25 you shouldnt have natural leader
Why will he go natural leader with no points in defense general other than the CEQ (assuming he has it) ?

That's wasted VA points. Bad idea, wrong choice. Something that gives a bonus of 1% to 4 guys is worse than something that gives a bonus of 20% to one guy (numbers made up on the fly to explain the situation).
+1 at level 25 you shouldnt have natural leader
Since80
offline
offline
Oh, I get it. VAs for now. SPs for later.
Which is it? Build for World League or Build for now? And why the difference when considering different aspects of the build?
By Level 60, I hope he has plenty in Defense General, if he's gonna be a NT. Long term, VA choice, IMO is Natch Lead first.
Which is it? Build for World League or Build for now? And why the difference when considering different aspects of the build?
By Level 60, I hope he has plenty in Defense General, if he's gonna be a NT. Long term, VA choice, IMO is Natch Lead first.
Hagalaz
offline
offline
Originally posted by Since80
Oh, I get it. VAs for now. SPs for later.
Which is it? Build for World League or Build for now? And why the difference when considering different aspects of the build?
By Level 60, I hope he has plenty in Defense General, if he's gonna be a NT. Long term, VA choice, IMO is Natch Lead first.
level 25 NOT EQUAL level 60. Or is that too hard to understand?
Oh, I get it. VAs for now. SPs for later.
Which is it? Build for World League or Build for now? And why the difference when considering different aspects of the build?
By Level 60, I hope he has plenty in Defense General, if he's gonna be a NT. Long term, VA choice, IMO is Natch Lead first.
level 25 NOT EQUAL level 60. Or is that too hard to understand?
Since80
offline
offline
Originally posted by Hagalaz
level 25 NOT EQUAL level 60. Or is that too hard to understand?
I already know this. Do you?
level 25 NOT EQUAL level 60. Or is that too hard to understand?
I already know this. Do you?
wrestlerjrh
offline
offline
Originally posted by Since80
Oh, I get it. VAs for now. SPs for later.
Which is it? Build for World League or Build for now? And why the difference when considering different aspects of the build?
By Level 60, I hope he has plenty in Defense General, if he's gonna be a NT. Long term, VA choice, IMO is Natch Lead first.
VAs do not have agls so you can add one that will help now and later and then add the ones that will only help later with no penalty, whereas with SP you need to keep agls in mind
Oh, I get it. VAs for now. SPs for later.
Which is it? Build for World League or Build for now? And why the difference when considering different aspects of the build?
By Level 60, I hope he has plenty in Defense General, if he's gonna be a NT. Long term, VA choice, IMO is Natch Lead first.
VAs do not have agls so you can add one that will help now and later and then add the ones that will only help later with no penalty, whereas with SP you need to keep agls in mind
thatruth28
offline
offline
Thanks, I'm doing Bull Rusher for now, Natural leader if I ever get DL General, haven't shopped much yet.
Since80
offline
offline
Originally posted by wrestlerjrh
VAs do not have agls so you can add one that will help now and later and then add the ones that will only help later with no penalty, whereas with SP you need to keep agls in mind
True. I'm not saying he has to get Natch Leader now. He probably doesn't have the fame for it either.
I just don't understand all the advice that I see that is only about what to do RIGHT NOW and doesn't let agents know what they should consider over the entire process of the build. Bull Rush is fine for now, but in the long run, Natch Leader has to be the priority for a player at the NT position. That's what I'm trying to get at and obviously I'm not doing a good job of it.
VAs do not have agls so you can add one that will help now and later and then add the ones that will only help later with no penalty, whereas with SP you need to keep agls in mind
True. I'm not saying he has to get Natch Leader now. He probably doesn't have the fame for it either.
I just don't understand all the advice that I see that is only about what to do RIGHT NOW and doesn't let agents know what they should consider over the entire process of the build. Bull Rush is fine for now, but in the long run, Natch Leader has to be the priority for a player at the NT position. That's what I'm trying to get at and obviously I'm not doing a good job of it.
Edited by Since80 on Mar 13, 2010 14:34:27
Hagalaz
offline
offline
We understand that, but why answer a question the OP didn't ask? He just asked what he should get at lvel 25!
thatruth28
offline
offline
Originally posted by Since80
???
I meant if I ever get an AEQ with DL General earlier, I know eventually I will put some points into it but I would hope to get it in AEQ to save SP.
???
I meant if I ever get an AEQ with DL General earlier, I know eventually I will put some points into it but I would hope to get it in AEQ to save SP.
You are not logged in. Please log in if you want to post a reply.





























