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RaiderRick04
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Has anyone tried high tackling (80+) with less than 60 strength for a hard hitting SS......Which is more important for FF......strength or tackling?

Might try it with him


http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1613707
 
EagleOtto
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60str, 90tackling, 100spd 15DvG 15PT and you should be golden
 
Siddharta
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What for? Safeties are not linebackers. You aren't supposed to force fumbles, that's what run stuffing linebackers are for >.<
 
kimimar0
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Noone is supposed to Force fumbles but they are very nice from Safety or Linebacker. Heard of Brian Dawkins?
 
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Originally posted by RaiderRick04
Has anyone tried high tackling (80+) with less than 60 strength for a hard hitting SS......Which is more important for FF......strength or tackling?

Might try it with him


http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1613707


i rather go the opposite 80+str and 60+ tackle with 15 in DvG,PT, and a couple points in Helmet crash with 5+ in MH or BH
 
Bladnach
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Not that hard to get 80str/80tkl and 110speed as well with 11monsterhit, high growl and big hit and also 15 helmet crash, 15 power tackler 15 rip the ball
 
Siddharta
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Originally posted by kimimar0
Noone is supposed to Force fumbles but they are very nice from Safety or Linebacker. Heard of Brian Dawkins?


Yeah... Let me welcome yout to Goal Line Blitz.



This is not the NFL, every point you spend on such a thing will be missed in other things. e.g. You take more tackling you miss Jumping/Vision.
Ofc a Safety need more hitting, but everything above the essentials for stopping a HB is pointless.

Originally posted by chronoaug
Not that hard to get 80str/80tkl and 110speed as well with 11monsterhit, high growl and big hit and also 15 helmet crash, 15 power tackler 15 rip the ball


Hello 60 agility and 60 Vision, very usefull player, you get 1 FF/game but you get fulled on 10 other plays that end in a TD......
 
Djinnt
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Originally posted by Siddharta
Hello 60 agility and 60 Vision, very usefull player, you get 1 FF/game but you get fulled on 10 other plays that end in a TD......


How is your SS doing? Is he good?
 
Siddharta
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Originally posted by Djinnt
How is your SS doing? Is he good?


Personaly I only have FS, but I discuss that matter with a friend of mine all the time. Is Western Europe Pro enough to talk about such things?

And again if you have 110 Speed that's pure waste on any DB. Why the hell is there Zone Specialist, Ball Hawk, Closing Speed and Shutdown Coverage. At any time of the play you have a certain amount of Boost to your Speed, eg 110 speed (with Ball Hawk triggered that's 143 Speed, who the hell needs that Speed, especially when you dont have the Agility to go with it). And again 80str and 80 tkl, you have to suck in some places for that high skills.
 
Bladnach
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God forbid someone have a experimental build as well. If it doesn't work out i'll always be able to rely on my 120speed, 80agility, 80 vision, 60jumping/takling and high SA build as well

The point was that 65/65 str/tkl safeties are a complete waste imo. People want hard hitters but don't actually invest the sp. 65-65 is a balanced safety. Personally i don't care much for them. I'd rather have tkl at 60 (for d v g) and strength in the mid 50s or go for both 75+
 
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Originally posted by Siddharta
Personaly I only have FS, but I discuss that matter with a friend of mine all the time. Is Western Europe Pro enough to talk about such things?

And again if you have 110 Speed that's pure waste on any DB. Why the hell is there Zone Specialist, Ball Hawk, Closing Speed and Shutdown Coverage. At any time of the play you have a certain amount of Boost to your Speed, eg 110 speed (with Ball Hawk triggered that's 143 Speed, who the hell needs that Speed, especially when you dont have the Agility to go with it). And again 80str and 80 tkl, you have to suck in some places for that high skills.


Disagree . . . 110 speed is too much for a CB, but for the new slowbuild safeties 110 speed is pretty much minimum. Considering pretty much every elusive has more than that, as do most WRs.

 
Siddharta
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Originally posted by SunshineMan89
Disagree . . . 110 speed is too much for a CB, but for the new slowbuild safeties 110 speed is pretty much minimum. Considering pretty much every elusive has more than that, as do most WRs.



As I said, you get a bonus to speed on every situation in the game. Ergo 110 Speed (without bonuses) means you have like 143 in some situations and don't tell me that pays off....
 
Bladnach
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Originally posted by SunshineMan89
Disagree . . . 110 speed is too much for a CB, but for the new slowbuild safeties 110 speed is pretty much minimum. Considering pretty much every elusive has more than that, as do most WRs.



110 is def minimum these days. It's so easy to do too if you're good at slowbuilds. Almost too easy
 
SunshineMan89
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Originally posted by Siddharta
As I said, you get a bonus to speed on every situation in the game. Ergo 110 Speed (without bonuses) means you have like 143 in some situations and don't tell me that pays off....


That pays off.
 
Djinnt
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110 speed on a safety is ideal, if not a little low.
110 speed on a corner is unnecessary.
 
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