I have a L39 QB in its 6th season and I still cant adjust the sliders properly to get decent completion results. Does anyone have any guidelines as to when to adjust more towards bullet or lofty, and open or route distance. All help and opinions will be appreciated. I know what the "?" says for each entry, but it doesnt seem to help much.
Ilok
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this is a pm I sent to someone asking my advice:
I found that anything over -40 bullet is counterproductive for QBs as the ball is thrown so low that if a WR is beating a defender, the ball is intercepted, or to a lesser extent, knocked down by the defender since the defender gets a free roll on the pass since he is so far behind the WR. My QB played at -15 bullet for most the season (80 strength helps) but we upped it to -30 for the scrimmages. I haven't seen much difference in the two settings.
Open Man is a joke and I think should be removed. You would think the setting would be giving the QB the choice between throwing to the open man, or the one that completed the route first. That is not what it does. In my experience, that slider means open man will throw to the first read if he is open and route distance means the QB will hold onto the ball until the route is complete.
From my experience with high open man, the QB quick throws his passes to the first read, which completely destroys the play. I saw this big time on HB passes and screens. Since the defender on the HB is so far from him at the start, the QB generally throws him the ball as soon as he touches it, so the play never develops. The same goes when you play teams in zone coverage, if the CB starts away from the WR, the QB will quick throw it to WR and with Ball hawk and the bonus roll for jumping a pass, its usually intercepted.
I've always had it on 0.
Throw away is broke. I threw two interceptions last year on plays that read throw away in the pbp. Also with conservative, you still will only throw maybe two throw aways a game and will still throw into heavy coverage a bunch. If you throw it away, you know your player is not going to catch it, but the defender still has a chance so its pointless.
scrambling almost never, dump sometimes if you have a pass catching RB and we are currently playing around with the favorite targets.
hope that helps.
I found that anything over -40 bullet is counterproductive for QBs as the ball is thrown so low that if a WR is beating a defender, the ball is intercepted, or to a lesser extent, knocked down by the defender since the defender gets a free roll on the pass since he is so far behind the WR. My QB played at -15 bullet for most the season (80 strength helps) but we upped it to -30 for the scrimmages. I haven't seen much difference in the two settings.
Open Man is a joke and I think should be removed. You would think the setting would be giving the QB the choice between throwing to the open man, or the one that completed the route first. That is not what it does. In my experience, that slider means open man will throw to the first read if he is open and route distance means the QB will hold onto the ball until the route is complete.
From my experience with high open man, the QB quick throws his passes to the first read, which completely destroys the play. I saw this big time on HB passes and screens. Since the defender on the HB is so far from him at the start, the QB generally throws him the ball as soon as he touches it, so the play never develops. The same goes when you play teams in zone coverage, if the CB starts away from the WR, the QB will quick throw it to WR and with Ball hawk and the bonus roll for jumping a pass, its usually intercepted.
I've always had it on 0.
Throw away is broke. I threw two interceptions last year on plays that read throw away in the pbp. Also with conservative, you still will only throw maybe two throw aways a game and will still throw into heavy coverage a bunch. If you throw it away, you know your player is not going to catch it, but the defender still has a chance so its pointless.
scrambling almost never, dump sometimes if you have a pass catching RB and we are currently playing around with the favorite targets.
hope that helps.
WiSeIVIaN
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I fair assessment llok, good to hear the input.
In my experience, somewhere between 0 and 50 bullet is uptimal, as is somewhere between -40 open man and 40 route distance.
In my experience, somewhere between 0 and 50 bullet is uptimal, as is somewhere between -40 open man and 40 route distance.
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I fair assessment llok, good to hear the input.
In my experience, somewhere between 0 and 50 bullet is uptimal, as is somewhere between -40 open man and 40 route distance.
The key to your quote is "somewhere". I think in most situations though, the spread is closer to 20 than 50 or 80 as you stated. Worse, I dont even know what those specific sitautions are for the proper spread. Is it based on my throw, pass, vision, confidence or what ratio of combinations...? llok DOES make it a little more understandable, especially concerning the definition of "open man". The more input on this subject the better.
I fair assessment llok, good to hear the input.
In my experience, somewhere between 0 and 50 bullet is uptimal, as is somewhere between -40 open man and 40 route distance.
The key to your quote is "somewhere". I think in most situations though, the spread is closer to 20 than 50 or 80 as you stated. Worse, I dont even know what those specific sitautions are for the proper spread. Is it based on my throw, pass, vision, confidence or what ratio of combinations...? llok DOES make it a little more understandable, especially concerning the definition of "open man". The more input on this subject the better.
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Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
... as is somewhere between -40 open man and 40 route distance.
-20/+30 to me.
... as is somewhere between -40 open man and 40 route distance.
-20/+30 to me.
cantero packers
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well when it comes to catching the harder u throw the ball the better catching ur recievers need to have so if u have a low strength QB throw bullet passes.
Ilok
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Originally posted by cantero packers
well when it comes to catching the harder u throw the ball the better catching ur recievers need to have so if u have a low strength QB throw bullet passes.
actually I haven't seen any connection between bullet and lofty and dropped passes. Actually dropped passes haven't been a problem in a few seasons. The problem is in PDs (which can be fixed a little with the bullet slider) and knocked loose (which is completely on the WR build)
well when it comes to catching the harder u throw the ball the better catching ur recievers need to have so if u have a low strength QB throw bullet passes.
actually I haven't seen any connection between bullet and lofty and dropped passes. Actually dropped passes haven't been a problem in a few seasons. The problem is in PDs (which can be fixed a little with the bullet slider) and knocked loose (which is completely on the WR build)
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