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ufgatorbait
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Once Speed and Agility are taken care of, which would you prefer on your Elusive Back?

If you have personal experience with either, please share! Thanks!
 
Meatdawg
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both?
 
monsterkill
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which to do first depends on where you are with training vision or carrying

though if you go vision first, you're buying a ticket to fumbletown
Edited by monsterkill on Sep 20, 2009 20:51:51
 
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I've been training vision after first cap to 52.

Carrying was stopped at 95% and sits at 61.

It's decision time before the conference finals. The one decision that I'm more afraid of is Vision to 60 - with the rumors that it actually hurts running backs due to indecision.
 
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Originally posted by Meatdawg
both?


meatdawg,

In your opinion, which would you go after first?

Eric
 
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Both. 3SP to carrying & 2SP to vision every lvl up.
 
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Originally posted by Kenshinzen
Both. 3SP to carrying & 2SP to vision every lvl up.


Kenshinzen, thank you for the advice as I've never actually thought of this dual approach. But doesn't this dual attribute investment disagree with the capping levels theory?
 
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Originally posted by ufgatorbait
But doesn't this dual attribute investment disagree with the capping levels theory?


yes it does

 
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Originally posted by ufgatorbait
Originally posted by Kenshinzen

Both. 3SP to carrying & 2SP to vision every lvl up.


Kenshinzen, thank you for the advice as I've never actually thought of this dual approach. But doesn't this dual attribute investment disagree with the capping levels theory?


Yes but if we're talking about your lvl 46 HB, your auto-lvl up gains are minimal anyway.

EDIT: To be specific, at lvl 38 auto-gains are 0.84 pts distributed to six major attributes for HB and that means 0.14pts/per lvl.
Edited by Kenshinzen on Sep 21, 2009 12:31:52
Edited by Kenshinzen on Sep 21, 2009 12:31:31
 
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carrying first
 
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Originally posted by kingofgod
carrying first


 
PsychoMan
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Originally posted by Kenshinzen
Yes but if we're talking about your lvl 46 HB, your auto-lvl up gains are minimal anyway.

EDIT: To be specific, at lvl 38 auto-gains are 0.84 pts distributed to six major attributes for HB and that means 0.14pts/per lvl.


this is true ... ppl don't need to follow this 'theory' this late in their player's career
 
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My HB has 70 vision and 63 carrying. Fumbled a lot but most of them were on kick returns. my HB has 30 strength. Basically my HB is a WR build but has carrying where you would have catching.

Not the best stats, but i think it was due to the fact that my back was more of a FAKE back. I have AEQ in juke and QC. I am thinking of swapping them out for the 2 pieces of 5% fake chance.

Take a look at my HB. Not on a very good team and horrible playcalling. But you can see the build. Pure scatback.

It seems that the elusive back is not as powerful as a runner...but devastating as a pass catcher. Especially screens.
 
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I have 70 carrying and it hasn't seemed to help w/ fumbles or jukes/fakes.

And FWIW, some of the dominant HBs on the test server only have 55-60 vision.
 
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