I built a pass rushing LDE and brought STR up with SPD and AGI. I had a good season 10 and preseason 11 is looking solid, im just worried that im going to peter out at higher levels because i didnt bring AGI high enough to start.
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By level 32 you should have speed and agility at least a natural 74, and be working on str by then.
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
By level 32 you should have speed and agility at least a natural 74, and be working on str by then.
one of them should be 80+ imo
By level 32 you should have speed and agility at least a natural 74, and be working on str by then.
one of them should be 80+ imo
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Originally posted by Kayoh
Originally posted by UnderDogs
By level 32 you should have speed and agility at least a natural 74, and be working on str by then.
one of them should be 80+ imo
If one should be at 80, what would Strength be at?
Originally posted by UnderDogs
By level 32 you should have speed and agility at least a natural 74, and be working on str by then.
one of them should be 80+ imo
If one should be at 80, what would Strength be at?
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Originally posted by Warlordss
If one should be at 80, what would Strength be at?
on the way to the 60 cap
If one should be at 80, what would Strength be at?
on the way to the 60 cap
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I think you can get speed and agility to 74, one will have 12 or so levels worth of auto gains so around 77, strength should be soft capped.
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I know the level bonuses are different, but I have a level 31 DT who has 81+ in both agility and strength, and speed is just over 53, so about 10 sp's over the first cap. DE's don't lose that much in level bonuses that your numbers should be too much below that, just flip the strength and speed. If you are one of those who likes to use BT's for SP's at early levels to help reach the caps quicker, you can be even higher, since my guy has saved every BT he has received.
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Originally posted by Edonidd
I know the level bonuses are different, but I have a level 31 DT who has 81+ in both agility and strength, and speed is just over 53, so about 10 sp's over the first cap. DE's don't lose that much in level bonuses that your numbers should be too much below that, just flip the strength and speed. If you are one of those who likes to use BT's for SP's at early levels to help reach the caps quicker, you can be even higher, since my guy has saved every BT he has received.
Don't D.T's get a bigger level bonus than D.E's? on like str and agility? Im pretty sure d.e's start off with .50 on str,speed,agility, and tackling, where D.T's start off getting .67 a level for str and agility?
I don't Know I could be wrong. But if I'm right, there is no point comparing D.E's to D.T's at the same level. You'd be sweating and spending extra sp trying to reach plateau's as a D.E. that are easier for a D.T.
I know the level bonuses are different, but I have a level 31 DT who has 81+ in both agility and strength, and speed is just over 53, so about 10 sp's over the first cap. DE's don't lose that much in level bonuses that your numbers should be too much below that, just flip the strength and speed. If you are one of those who likes to use BT's for SP's at early levels to help reach the caps quicker, you can be even higher, since my guy has saved every BT he has received.
Don't D.T's get a bigger level bonus than D.E's? on like str and agility? Im pretty sure d.e's start off with .50 on str,speed,agility, and tackling, where D.T's start off getting .67 a level for str and agility?
I don't Know I could be wrong. But if I'm right, there is no point comparing D.E's to D.T's at the same level. You'd be sweating and spending extra sp trying to reach plateau's as a D.E. that are easier for a D.T.
Edited by UnderDogs on Aug 18, 2009 05:27:45
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Don't D.T's get a bigger level bonus than D.E's? on like str and agility? Im pretty sure d.e's start off with .50 on str,speed,agility, and tackling, where D.T's start off getting .67 a level for str and agility?
I don't Know I could be wrong. But if I'm right, there is no point comparing D.E's to D.T's at the same level. You'd be sweating and spending extra sp trying to reach plateau's as a D.E. that are easier for a D.T.
Yeah, ike I said, the level up bonuses are different. But also like I said, the difference between >67 and .50 isn't that big of a deal. Even if the bonuses stayed the same instead of being reduced after level 24 (I think it's 24?) it would still only be around 4.5 moreattribute points total, and even less relevant, since the bonuses only really make a big difference in the build after you reach the caps.
A DE should still be able to hit the 77 cap, in speed and agility, and the 48 cap in strength by level 32 without any problem at all. IMO. But I'm sure you can get Kayoh or one of the guys that likes to plan out builds and run the numbers to make a better educated guess than me.
Don't D.T's get a bigger level bonus than D.E's? on like str and agility? Im pretty sure d.e's start off with .50 on str,speed,agility, and tackling, where D.T's start off getting .67 a level for str and agility?
I don't Know I could be wrong. But if I'm right, there is no point comparing D.E's to D.T's at the same level. You'd be sweating and spending extra sp trying to reach plateau's as a D.E. that are easier for a D.T.
Yeah, ike I said, the level up bonuses are different. But also like I said, the difference between >67 and .50 isn't that big of a deal. Even if the bonuses stayed the same instead of being reduced after level 24 (I think it's 24?) it would still only be around 4.5 moreattribute points total, and even less relevant, since the bonuses only really make a big difference in the build after you reach the caps.
A DE should still be able to hit the 77 cap, in speed and agility, and the 48 cap in strength by level 32 without any problem at all. IMO. But I'm sure you can get Kayoh or one of the guys that likes to plan out builds and run the numbers to make a better educated guess than me.
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Originally posted by Edonidd
Yeah, ike I said, the level up bonuses are different. But also like I said, the difference between >67 and .50 isn't that big of a deal. Even if the bonuses stayed the same instead of being reduced after level 24 (I think it's 24?) it would still only be around 4.5 moreattribute points total, and even less relevant, since the bonuses only really make a big difference in the build after you reach the caps.
A DE should still be able to hit the 77 cap, in speed and agility, and the 48 cap in strength by level 32 without any problem at all. IMO. But I'm sure you can get Kayoh or one of the guys that likes to plan out builds and run the numbers to make a better educated guess than me.
Still a difference of 3.74 in Both STR, and AGI from level 1-22 just from levels. There is no use in comparing D.T's to D.E's. from 22- 32 it's almost a 6 full points difference from level gains.
Yeah, ike I said, the level up bonuses are different. But also like I said, the difference between >67 and .50 isn't that big of a deal. Even if the bonuses stayed the same instead of being reduced after level 24 (I think it's 24?) it would still only be around 4.5 moreattribute points total, and even less relevant, since the bonuses only really make a big difference in the build after you reach the caps.
A DE should still be able to hit the 77 cap, in speed and agility, and the 48 cap in strength by level 32 without any problem at all. IMO. But I'm sure you can get Kayoh or one of the guys that likes to plan out builds and run the numbers to make a better educated guess than me.
Still a difference of 3.74 in Both STR, and AGI from level 1-22 just from levels. There is no use in comparing D.T's to D.E's. from 22- 32 it's almost a 6 full points difference from level gains.
Edited by UnderDogs on Aug 18, 2009 12:44:25
Edited by UnderDogs on Aug 18, 2009 12:40:36
Edited by UnderDogs on Aug 18, 2009 12:39:56
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DTs gain 0.67, drops to 0.5 at L22, and to 0.38 at L30. DEs gain 0.5, 0.38, and 0.28 at the same points.
you can get a DE to 77/77, but if you go straight there you won't hit it til after L32, and you wouldn't have put any SP into strength either.
you can get a DE to 77/77, but if you go straight there you won't hit it til after L32, and you wouldn't have put any SP into strength either.
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Originally posted by whatje
DTs gain 0.67, drops to 0.5 at L22, and to 0.38 at L30. DEs gain 0.5, 0.38, and 0.28 at the same points.
you can get a DE to 77/77, but if you go straight there you won't hit it til after L32, and you wouldn't have put any SP into strength either.
I superslow built my DE for about half a season but he will have 80 speed and 78 agility base at level 27 so by level 32 he will have about 54/55 strength.
DTs gain 0.67, drops to 0.5 at L22, and to 0.38 at L30. DEs gain 0.5, 0.38, and 0.28 at the same points.
you can get a DE to 77/77, but if you go straight there you won't hit it til after L32, and you wouldn't have put any SP into strength either.
I superslow built my DE for about half a season but he will have 80 speed and 78 agility base at level 27 so by level 32 he will have about 54/55 strength.
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Originally posted by doubletree
I superslow built my DE for about half a season but he will have 80 speed and 78 agility base at level 27 so by level 32 he will have about 54/55 strength.
I'm so proud of you.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1261450
I superslow built my DE for about half a season but he will have 80 speed and 78 agility base at level 27 so by level 32 he will have about 54/55 strength.
I'm so proud of you.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1261450
Edited by UnderDogs on Aug 18, 2009 22:23:53
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Originally posted by doubletree
I superslow built my DE for about half a season but he will have 80 speed and 78 agility base at level 27 so by level 32 he will have about 54/55 strength.
ok, fair enough.
i meant to say if you're actually hitting those caps (take speed to 77, then agility to 77).
http://goallineblitz.com/game/skill_points.pl?player_id=1425951
79.52 base speed at L25...if you cap right away at 77 you'd probably end up with something more like 81.52 at L25.
I superslow built my DE for about half a season but he will have 80 speed and 78 agility base at level 27 so by level 32 he will have about 54/55 strength.
ok, fair enough.
i meant to say if you're actually hitting those caps (take speed to 77, then agility to 77).
http://goallineblitz.com/game/skill_points.pl?player_id=1425951
79.52 base speed at L25...if you cap right away at 77 you'd probably end up with something more like 81.52 at L25.
Edited by whatje on Aug 18, 2009 22:36:25
Edited by whatje on Aug 18, 2009 22:35:57
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