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Duo
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I want to get more of a burst like I see other RBs doing (Like when they instantly shoot off the line going like 100MPH), but I heard first step doesnt effect that.

I have 7 skill points right now. I was thinking either 2 first step or splurge 5 points into one point of speed to 75 natural and then train speed to 76 natural overnight, but I'm not sure about that when 5 points could be spent elsewhere. Where should I put these points?

But even with 90 speed currently I'm not seeing those bursts and I think it could be because of first step.

Build:
Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 32.37
Speed: 90.37 (74.37 naturally and still missing 2 pieces of 24 EQ so it should be 92.37 soon)
Agility: 72.37 (68.37 naturally)
Jumping: 15.65
Stamina: 26.65
Vision: 32.37
Confidence: 30.37

Football Skills
Blocking: 15.65
Catching: 20.65
Tackling: 8
Throwing: 15.65
Carrying: 32.37
Kicking: 9
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Elusive Back Abilities
Quick Cut: 9 (3 comes from AEQ)
Head Fake: 8 (3 comes from AEQ)
First Step: 3
Juke: 4
Spin: 1

Power Back Abilities
Cover Up: 1
Lower the Shoulder: 2
Stiff Arm: 1
Power Through: 2
Dive for Yardage: 0

Veteran Abilities
Quick Feet: 6

Edited by Duo on Jun 23, 2009 11:05:42
Edited by Duo on Jun 23, 2009 11:03:07
 
Duo
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Hmm, I could also do 1 first step and 2 Juke

And yes, I'm going to be training carrying
 
whatje
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i'm not convinced FS is great for HBs. how often are you at a dead stop?
 
eholling
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Well, I'll admit up front that I'm still trying to figure out the HB build but I think your speed and SAs are fine for now. Think about about capping your vision and Carrying.

I do have a little FS on my HB by the way and it does seem to make a difference. It seems to help him get to the corner before the defenders shut it down.
 
Duo
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Do you think it'd be better to continue training carrying/vision until its no longer worth it THEN dump points in?
 
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first step definitely makes a big difference in acceleration after getting the handoff. I wonder if more carrying might help make the handoff a little smoother. I'd probably cap carrying first before doing anything else.
 
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I think First Step would be better for Power Backs as breaking a tackle makes the Back stop more frequently and longer than it did a couple seasons ago.

Speed and Elusive backs never really *stop* moving....
 
whatje
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Originally posted by Darren McFadden
first step definitely makes a big difference in acceleration after getting the handoff. I wonder if more carrying might help make the handoff a little smoother. I'd probably cap carrying first before doing anything else.


i have never noticed this to be true.
 
Seleni
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Originally posted by whatje
i'm not convinced FS is great for HBs. how often are you at a dead stop?


Bort confirmed first step can fire at a dead stop, and also when a player is moving very slowly, I forget how he worded it but I know 100% it was said. Sorry I don't have the link.
 
PsychoMan
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Originally posted by Seleni
Originally posted by whatje

i'm not convinced FS is great for HBs. how often are you at a dead stop?


Bort confirmed first step can fire at a dead stop, and also when a player is moving very slowly, I forget how he worded it but I know 100% it was said. Sorry I don't have the link.


yeh i saw this too. he def said it.
 
whatje
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you're both right, that slow is much slower than any elusive back should be running...unless he broke a tackle or something
 
Duo
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So those big bursts I see on players is the result of first step? I have 9 in Quick Cut so that can't be it.
 
whatje
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Originally posted by Duo
So those big bursts I see on players is the result of first step? I have 9 in Quick Cut so that can't be it.


no

10 more speed & agility > FS.
 
Zeromus
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Originally posted by Spielmannsfluch
I think First Step would be better for Power Backs as breaking a tackle makes the Back stop more frequently and longer than it did a couple seasons ago.


Damn, I've just passed a +2 srenght +1 FS on my power back...
 
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Ok, I guess like they said, carrying and vision should be the next skills capped, imo
 
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