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barteau
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I've heard stories of Bort saying that Ball Hawk only helps WR on bad throws. So unless your QB sucks, it's not going to do you any good.

Just wondering what peoples experience has been with Ball Hawk. I've got it maxed out right now and I'm wondering if I should start pulling points out of it.

Thanks.
 
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I have it maxed for my WR. He's been very successful. It's so hard to tell in this game what is really working or not...but since having ball hawk he's seemed to move extra fast to any ball not thrown directly at him or in stride. Which would coincide with the game's description of the VA.

Like i said though...so hard to tell if it's ball hawk or something else.
 
Mob-6
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Please post some replays of your guy quickly adjusting to the ball that you think is influenced by ballhawk. Just curious to see what you see in the replay.
 
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Originally posted by Mob-6
Please post some replays of your guy quickly adjusting to the ball that you think is influenced by ballhawk. Just curious to see what you see in the replay.


 
drakeborn
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I don't think it is useless, but I certainly don't think it is so good as to be a no-brainer. one of my WRs ran with it last season and it "felt" like it was helping.

One thing to consider is that if a Bad Throw is caught, "Bad Throw" doesn't seem to show in the replay text. Hard to know for sure without studying tape frame-by-frame.
 
mikeki
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Anyone seen there guy get to the ball too quick and then be forced to slow down as a result of Ball Hawk?
 
Mob-6
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That happens without Ball Hawk.

If the WR sees the ball before he attempts to catch it, I don't know how a 20% agility and vision boost wouldn't help boost the catching modifier enough to justify this. I have no personal experience with it, but on paper...
 
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I have 15 in Ball Hawk. Just saw this thread andit seems it's ONLY on tipped passes. If this is correct, then it seems less amazing.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2061088

Ball Hawk - This player has a nose for tipped passes. Each level of Ball Hawk gives a +1% bonus to speed, agility, jumping, and catching from the moment a pass has been deflected until it is caught or dropped. Applies on both defense and offense. Prerequisites: 40 jumping
 
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Originally posted by ultranollie
I have 15 in Ball Hawk. Just saw this thread andit seems it's ONLY on tipped passes. If this is correct, then it seems less amazing.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2061088

Ball Hawk - This player has a nose for tipped passes. Each level of Ball Hawk gives a +1% bonus to speed, agility, jumping, and catching from the moment a pass has been deflected until it is caught or dropped. Applies on both defense and offense. Prerequisites: 40 jumping


ther actually changed ball hawk last season to be so that you get the bonus for when you see the pass coming to when it is caught or dropped. still doesnt mean its good for WRs though. Its amazing for CBs though.
 
taurran
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I think 5 pts in it is worthwhile.
 
Mob-6
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Interesting on the deflections point. I wonder how much of a difference it makes with deflected passes. Sure Hands doesn't work with deflections which are the biggest problems my WRs have. Will that 20% agility and vision boost help with tracking, following, catching deflections? I'm tempted...
 
Djinnt
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Best for FS imo.
 
wlarson
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Originally posted by taurran
I think 5 pts in it is worthwhile.


 
ericb45696
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BH sucks for WR IMO.
 
tfuerte
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Here's a few plays i found that show it a little bit.. 15 in Ball Hawk. Have to look closely on some

I could just be imagining it on some, but i know there is some good ones in here..

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=502764&pbp_id=15895610
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=570236&pbp_id=18576825
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=570236&pbp_id=18576870
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=570236&pbp_id=18581985
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=570236&pbp_id=18583957
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=570260&pbp_id=21154881
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=502753&pbp_id=14996410

Can't believe i was bored enough to look :\
 
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