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which two attributes should i start training next, im a coverage ss.


-Thanks

If I was handed that build I would train stamina/confidence, till stamina is 30. then train jumping and catching. all the while finishing bringing speed/agility/vision to 61 or 68 if they aren't already there.

I would do what UD said if you aren't planning on capping strength or tackling anytime soon.

I would actually train str/tkl until both are 30-32, then go back and do stamina/confidence.

Or at least train jumping/tackling. Don't want to miss tackles in the open field.

Jumping and stamina (super important attributes for getting pt and swats) are next. After those get to at least forty (or even maybe capped), work on tackling and strength to the first cap before going all out speed and agility for the rest of his career. My build on my SS isn't open, but if you look at his bars and stats you'll see that I kinda know what I'm talking about. People don't appreciate strength and tackling enough for SS's, and those two shouldn't be a point of emphasis, but you HAVE to get them to a certain level so that you don't get bowled over every time. By level 45 aim for 48 strength, 48 tackling, 90-something speed, 70-something agility, 40-something stamina and jumping, 30-something confidence, mid-20s catching, and at least 60 vision. Hope that helps.

If you're a coverage SS, then you'll likely never want to put a point into strength, so here's what I suggest: train tackling + strength, then jumping + strength once tackling is at/over 28, then confidence + stamina.

Originally posted by Asheme
If you're a coverage SS, then you'll likely never want to put a point into strength, so here's what I suggest: train tackling + strength, then jumping + strength once tackling is at/over 28, then confidence + stamina.

I'd say at least 1st capped Strength, but not before Speed/Agility/Tackling/Vision are where they want them to be. Coverage SS still has to make tackles in the run game. Otherwise he'd probably be better off making a CB.

Originally posted by Asheme
If you're a coverage SS, then you'll likely never want to put a point into strength, so here's what I suggest: train tackling + strength, then jumping + strength once tackling is at/over 28, then confidence + stamina.

Thats not true. Even CBs can use strength. Jackhammer IMO.

Originally posted by mmuhr
Originally posted by Asheme

If you're a coverage SS, then you'll likely never want to put a point into strength, so here's what I suggest: train tackling + strength, then jumping + strength once tackling is at/over 28, then confidence + stamina.

Thats not true. Even CBs can use strength. Jackhammer IMO.

Ehh, I believe Asheme.

Also, CBs are irrelevant to this discussion?

Originally posted by ReAnimation
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1246140&playoffs=0

which two attributes should i start training next, im a coverage ss.


-Thanks

first thing id do is get agility to the 61 cap while training something else...

Originally posted by entropy
Originally posted by mmuhr

Originally posted by Asheme


If you're a coverage SS, then you'll likely never want to put a point into strength, so here's what I suggest: train tackling + strength, then jumping + strength once tackling is at/over 28, then confidence + stamina.

Thats not true. Even CBs can use strength. Jackhammer IMO.

Ehh, I believe Asheme.

Also, CBs are irrelevant to this discussion?

dratini avatar, nice!

Originally posted by entropy
Originally posted by mmuhr

Originally posted by Asheme


If you're a coverage SS, then you'll likely never want to put a point into strength, so here's what I suggest: train tackling + strength, then jumping + strength once tackling is at/over 28, then confidence + stamina.

Thats not true. Even CBs can use strength. Jackhammer IMO.

Ehh, I believe Asheme.

Also, CBs are irrelevant to this discussion?

Ehh he's pretty wrong.

cb's cover the most?

asheme has a lot of opinions season 1 guys have about the game. they never change the way they play. the game has evolved A LOT since then.

Originally posted by Riggs_Inator
I'd say at least 1st capped Strength, but not before Speed/Agility/Tackling/Vision are where they want them to be. Coverage SS still has to make tackles in the run game. Otherwise he'd probably be better off making a CB.
I'm thinking about adding strength for the fist time at lvl 64 on my pure cover SS, because I have really nowhere that *needs* the SP, that how low of a priority it is for me. Strength does nothing for actually making the tackle, only lowering the "dragged yards" number after/during the tackle. Since Bort p much nerfed that into oblivion, strength has little use imo. And even with 40 strength and zero Jackhammer I was KLing 60+ strength/carrying TEs, so, I'm not convinced, really.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Ehh he's pretty wrong.

cb's cover the most?

asheme has a lot of opinions season 1 guys have about the game. they never change the way they play. the game has evolved A LOT since then.
Nothing's changed about my build strategy since S1? Really? The sim changes every single season, and I ran a top 10 team for 9 of them, so I had no choice but to change.

Nice dogfight between Asheme and UnderDogs going on throughout entire GLB forums... but back to the topic:

f.w.i.w, there are 2 sides pointing out different aspects, but not really disagreeing:

- Asheme states, you can get by with "low" strength (40?) - if you (a) build a pure coverage SS and (b) manage to knock loose passes vs. TEs with reasonable strength/carrying (he doesn't tell how to do that, just that he does)

- Rigs / UnderDogs state, that (c) strength does a lot for SS and you want it at least soft capped and (d) SS got an equal share of coverage in the game

Might all be true. Can't compare apples and peaches while there's more than one way to skin a cat.

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Personal remark:

I noticed strength doing a lot in terms of getting off blocks and making a tackle. I'm pretty sure, strength goes into the "make tackle" equation, not only the "how many yards dragged" formula - and of course it's a part of the FFum and knocked loose rolls. Because of this multiple use, it's a very reasonable choice even for a coverage guy.

I'm not disagreeing because, well, I don't disagree. I've said many times that there are multiple types of SS and different ways to build those multiple types (also, strength doesn't go into the make tackle equation in terms of making/missing the tackle, unless Bort changed the code since he posted about it. I'm not going searching for his post, though >_> ).