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socal1273
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I see plays where a WR catches the ball and then just sits there while the defender tackles him. What is causing this to happen?
 
drakeborn
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The ability to catch in stride depends on several attributes and in-game conditions. QB Vision, WR Vision, and WR Catching are some of the top factors.
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zomgmike
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i would also include WR carrying.
 
Djinnt
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WR catching is the biggest factor (by far.)
 
JD Cuda
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
WR catching is the biggest factor (by far.)


I agree.
 
MarnDeis
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Sometimes you are still bobbling the ball.

Other times its all about your agility and vision to start running after stopping to catch the ball. Like previous posters, its all about catching and vision to prevent this from happening.




 
Dynames
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I wouldn't think catching would play a factor in catching in stride.
 
Djinnt
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Originally posted by Dynames
I wouldn't think catching would play a factor in catching in stride.


When my WR had ~51 catching he bobbled, had more drops, less receptions, but very high YPC.
When I did an equipment swing and he had 65 in catching, drops were reduced by 400%, receptions increased by 300%, and YPC dropped by less than a yard.
In the first scenario, speed was 81, in the second it was 69.

There were no other tactic changes between QB, O-line, or anything else. In both cases my WR was playing against competition that was equal to each other. Even the plays we called on were the same.
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drakeborn
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Originally posted by Dynames
I wouldn't think catching would play a factor in catching in stride.


Bort would disagree.
 
Dynames
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks

When my WR had ~51 catching he bobbled, had more drops, less receptions, but very high YPC.
When I did an equipment swing and he had 65 in catching, drops were reduced by 400%, receptions increased by 300%, and YPC dropped by less than a yard.
In the first scenario, speed was 81, in the second it was 69.

There were no other tactic changes between QB, O-line, or anything else. In both cases my WR was playing against competition that was equal to each other. Even the plays we called on were the same.


I guess you would need to choose between yards or receptions.

Originally posted by drakeborn

Bort would disagree.


I guess so...

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Djinnt
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Originally posted by Dynames
Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks


When my WR had ~51 catching he bobbled, had more drops, less receptions, but very high YPC.
When I did an equipment swing and he had 65 in catching, drops were reduced by 400%, receptions increased by 300%, and YPC dropped by less than a yard.
In the first scenario, speed was 81, in the second it was 69.

There were no other tactic changes between QB, O-line, or anything else. In both cases my WR was playing against competition that was equal to each other. Even the plays we called on were the same.


I guess you would need to choose between yards or receptions.

Originally posted by drakeborn


Bort would disagree.


I guess so...



Fortunately I don't. Catching>Speed provides more of both.
 
Dynames
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
Originally posted by Dynames

Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks



When my WR had ~51 catching he bobbled, had more drops, less receptions, but very high YPC.
When I did an equipment swing and he had 65 in catching, drops were reduced by 400%, receptions increased by 300%, and YPC dropped by less than a yard.
In the first scenario, speed was 81, in the second it was 69.

There were no other tactic changes between QB, O-line, or anything else. In both cases my WR was playing against competition that was equal to each other. Even the plays we called on were the same.


I guess you would need to choose between yards or receptions.

Originally posted by drakeborn



Bort would disagree.


I guess so...



Fortunately I don't. Catching>Speed provides more of both.


I would have to disagree.
 
Djinnt
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I'm talking about in my specific case.
The equation of 81 speed and 51 catching was inferior to 69 speed and 65 catching.
 
socal1273
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Does anyone have evidence to support what they're saying? I know you can come up with examples, but there may be other factors involved (such as type of play called, defensive matchup, bad throw, etc.). Isn't everyone basically saying how they think the game should work rather than how it actually works?
 
Djinnt
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Originally posted by socal1273
Does anyone have evidence to support what they're saying? I know you can come up with examples, but there may be other factors involved (such as type of play called, defensive matchup, bad throw, etc.). Isn't everyone basically saying how they think the game should work rather than how it actually works?


Raise catching and find out for yourself.
 
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