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Hes asking for opinions, please give them to him. These are flat out anti-us policies. Anti-BBB level policies. PLEASE add to these threads. He apparently doesent feel like friendship should be as important as generic parity in an MMORPG.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=249162

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=249621

I think it sounds like a good idea

have one or two teams with way higher levels than everyone else is not fun anyway you look it

From reading what Bort said as a premise for those posts, I think he might be referring to what happened in this league, haha. Not sure if you're going to garner much support here.

Its stupid, because this entire league is very competitive. We're all in the 10-14 range (the winning teams anyway, and most of the losing). I think it'd have to be something like 5-6 levels for this to take effect.

And so what, this players' morale will be basically around 0 by the end of the season? I just don't think this is the way to handle it personally. There's better ideas out there.

Originally posted by xeef
These are flat out anti-us policies. Anti-BBB level policies. PLEASE add to these threads. He apparently doesent feel like friendship should be as important as generic parity in an MMORPG.
yeah i cant support your position at all

hes not trying to break up teams or keep friends from playing together. hes trying to avoid exactly what happened in this league

what the quarantine did, whether they realized it or not, and even if they had properly traded the players for cash in the beginning, is extremely dangerous to the stability of the entire game. if you allow those kinds of nuclear bombs of concentrated talent to land randomly throughout the league, youve destroyed any chance of competitive balance. you then turn it into a game of who can find these bombs and bring them into their league. there will be no balance across the site and pretty soon people will start leaving in droves

the same thing even happens with individual players way out of line with the league they go into, though its not as immediately obvious. you cant have players from the nfl dropping back into college just so they can play with their friends and dominate. if he allows that then you will see the hordes of members abandon their players as they feel rightfully gypped when teams are adding players eight levels higher and forcing them to go do the same thing

a lot of teams try to do things the 'right' way by starting from the ground up and building their players properly. if you allow these super players to just drop in at any time you cheapen the experience for teams and players trying to do it right. in that case it may not be unethical or not even unsportsmanlike, but it still has a chilling effect on the leagues

like it or not, the long term stability of this game relies on a lot more parity than what is here now. thats what hes trying to address

Originally posted by scarletmbb
From reading what Bort said as a premise for those posts, I think he might be referring to what happened in this league, haha. Not sure if you're going to garner much support here.

So lets all thank the one team that was "cheating" for ruining everything.

Originally posted by Cberry
Originally posted by scarletmbb

From reading what Bort said as a premise for those posts, I think he might be referring to what happened in this league, haha. Not sure if you're going to garner much support here.

So lets all thank the one team that was "cheating" for ruining everything.

Well, one team unless you count the Richmond Speed and Multiple Scorgasms.

Originally posted by meathead013
if you allow those kinds of nuclear bombs of concentrated talent to land randomly throughout the league, youve destroyed any chance of competitive balance. you then turn it into a game of who can find these bombs and bring them into their league. there will be no balance across the site and pretty soon people will start leaving in droves

Its already that way. Right now, this game is almost purely about who can pickup the best players which, 99.9% of the time, means the highest levels. When the tactics update comes up, perhaps that will change? I kinda doubt it though.

Most of the leagues I'm in have a large disparity in talent from top to bottom. There are a couple elite teams and some good teams...but at least half of the teams have no chance.

As far as this league goes, we have level 15/16 players that exist because they played 8 games last season and now a full slate of games this season. Then tack on possible boosts. By playoff time, there could be level 18+ players around. Some teams in this league are lucky to have a few players in their teens while others have a dozen or more. Thats not competitive balance.

The suggestions forum has had posts about realignment. I think its probably a good idea. At the very least, promotion/relegation should be sped up for the next couple seasons. If teams are realigned based on their overall/average level, you might be able to have level caps. But if that level cap is below the level of players on the best team in the league, you're telling other teams they can't compete this year.

Originally posted by xeef
Hes asking for opinions, please give them to him. These are flat out anti-us policies. Anti-BBB level policies. PLEASE add to these threads. He apparently doesent feel like friendship should be as important as generic parity in an MMORPG.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=249162

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=249621


YOUR friendships dont have anything to do with the thousands of other GLB players but overall parity league to league DOES. This is what makes it more important. Plus I am not following your thinking that you HAVE to be on the same team as your friend to remain friendly. if a level cap prevents your friend from having a player on your team then you should friendily ask them to create a lower level player that CAN be on your team if it means that much to you.

Originally posted by mgse
Originally posted by meathead013

if you allow those kinds of nuclear bombs of concentrated talent to land randomly throughout the league, youve destroyed any chance of competitive balance. you then turn it into a game of who can find these bombs and bring them into their league. there will be no balance across the site and pretty soon people will start leaving in droves

Its already that way. Right now, this game is almost purely about who can pickup the best players which, 99.9% of the time, means the highest levels. When the tactics update comes up, perhaps that will change? I kinda doubt it though.

Most of the leagues I'm in have a large disparity in talent from top to bottom. There are a couple elite teams and some good teams...but at least half of the teams have no chance.

As far as this league goes, we have level 15/16 players that exist because they played 8 games last season and now a full slate of games this season. Then tack on possible boosts. By playoff time, there could be level 18+ players around. Some teams in this league are lucky to have a few players in their teens while others have a dozen or more. Thats not competitive balance.

The suggestions forum has had posts about realignment. I think its probably a good idea. At the very least, promotion/relegation should be sped up for the next couple seasons. If teams are realigned based on their overall/average level, you might be able to have level caps. But if that level cap is below the level of players on the best team in the league, you're telling other teams they can't compete this year.


you are right in that good scouting and recruiting plays a big part in this game. i think too big a part so i too am looking forward to tactics updates. it is much like the college game, whoever gets the best recuits win it. but then again perhaps this is part of the sim? if so then it is a real to life replica. as you get higher in the league ranks i think what you see is recruiting being less of an impact. from a snap shot analysis of the pro leagues it appears the the w-l records more closely resemble a bell curve indicating that the records are statistically viable.

however i think the answer to your arguement about the recruiting being too much a part of the game could be addressed by a level cap. if you cap a leagues levels recruiting will only take you so far, you can recruit your ass off but still only get a player at the cap not 5 levels above the league average.

i also agree that the relegation needs to speed up as while baby GLB grows up. i think a total realignment may create too much turmoil. perhaps sending more teams up or down would be better?

good thoughts though weasel.

I wouldn't be against either. Parity makes the game more fun, and these rules would have prevented us from unintentionally creating a huge fiasco.

This is what? The second season? To look at massive realignment, to emplace arbitrary restrictions; is to grant a knee-jerk reaction.

Here's the simple truth of it:

1) Many of the current player/agents, had never heard of this game until recently. Thus, our layers are lower levels than those who started season 1.

2) By having had a player in at season 1, they have an entire season of leveling ahead of us PLUS at leats 1 3 level boost option. There in fact SHOULD be about a 15 level difference between the high-low atm. A difference, whiwch wioll grow next season as players from season 1 are on teams along with players entering their first season in season 3.

3) Time will fix all. A team that loads up on season 1 talent, will win in a division/conference where not everyone else does the same. True enough. However, that team will also age faster, and find themselves seeking to replace EVERYONE at the same time. Smart ownership, is going to sprinkle their roster with a few guys from season 1, mostly from season 2 and a few beginning in season 3.

Essentially, the season 1 players, will turn into the "hired guns". 1 yr high $$ deals in an effort to "buy" a Championship. An owner wont be able to afford 6 or 7 of these guys, because the market will prevent it.

the only problem i see with your theory sarge is your talking a LONG length of time. you can have a player for 10 seasons thats like 18 months which is a hefty time before the retirement turnover starts to propagate younger players through the leagues.

Originally posted by General Terms
the only problem i see with your theory sarge is your talking a LONG length of time. you can have a player for 10 seasons thats like 18 months which is a hefty time before the retirement turnover starts to propagate younger players through the leagues.
right

and player owners will lose interest by then and not buy any more FP. the site has no choice but to keep as many people interested in playing as they can. parity and closing loopholes is the best way to do that

Originally posted by meathead013
Originally posted by General Terms

the only problem i see with your theory sarge is your talking a LONG length of time. you can have a player for 10 seasons thats like 18 months which is a hefty time before the retirement turnover starts to propagate younger players through the leagues.
right

and player owners will lose interest by then and not buy any more FP. the site has no choice but to keep as many people interested in playing as they can. parity and closing loopholes is the best way to do that


no actually offering ppl free sex would be the best way but probably illegal except in amsterdam