Is Heavyweight still effective for a DE with strength in the low to mid 60's?
Rage Kinard
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I don't know. I would think it still has a chance of working anytime you break a block, but what % base chance you are working off of is anyone's guess.
tautology
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Low to mid sixties at what level of competition?
At level 35-40 it works pretty well. At 50+ competition, not so much.
At level 35-40 it works pretty well. At 50+ competition, not so much.
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I've got the same question. My DE is slow building and will have around 80 agility and speed and 65 strength naturally plus whatever I put my equipment in. I'm assuming that he'll be breaking a lot of blocks, so would it be a good idea to invest in heavyweight? This will be in Eastern Europe A.
Darren McFadden
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No. It doesn't say "gives a 30% of knocking down players when breaking blocks" it says "gives a +2% BONUS to knocking down a player...".
If you have a 0-10% chance of knocking down a player when breaking a block, then a 50% bonus to that doesn't mean much. If you have a 30% chance of knocking a guy down, +30% means a lot more.
If you have a 0-10% chance of knocking down a player when breaking a block, then a 50% bonus to that doesn't mean much. If you have a 30% chance of knocking a guy down, +30% means a lot more.
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TheFranticMoron
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Heavyweight works more on rushing plays than passing plays in my experience- and this is coming from a 120+ strength DT
Rage Kinard
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Originally posted by TheFranticMoron
Heavyweight works more on rushing plays than passing plays in my experience- and this is coming from a 120+ strength DT
The problem with trying to figure out if heavyweight is working on running plays though is you don't know if it is a reverse pancake or a failed cut block.
Heavyweight works more on rushing plays than passing plays in my experience- and this is coming from a 120+ strength DT
The problem with trying to figure out if heavyweight is working on running plays though is you don't know if it is a reverse pancake or a failed cut block.
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Originally posted by Darren McFadden
No. It doesn't say "gives a 30% of knocking down players when breaking blocks" it says "gives a +2% BONUS to knocking down a player...".
If you have a 0-10% chance of knocking down a player when breaking a block, then a 50% bonus to that doesn't mean much. If you have a 30% chance of knocking a guy down, +30% means a lot more.
unfortunately i have to agree with darren mcfadden my DE(lvl31) has low strength(~50) and high agility(~85) and 7 in heavyweight, i don't think he has knocked any OT's down on running plays or pass plays this season so far
No. It doesn't say "gives a 30% of knocking down players when breaking blocks" it says "gives a +2% BONUS to knocking down a player...".
If you have a 0-10% chance of knocking down a player when breaking a block, then a 50% bonus to that doesn't mean much. If you have a 30% chance of knocking a guy down, +30% means a lot more.
unfortunately i have to agree with darren mcfadden my DE(lvl31) has low strength(~50) and high agility(~85) and 7 in heavyweight, i don't think he has knocked any OT's down on running plays or pass plays this season so far
odt
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Originally posted by SPYFELLOW
Originally posted by Darren McFadden
No. It doesn't say "gives a 30% of knocking down players when breaking blocks" it says "gives a +2% BONUS to knocking down a player...".
If you have a 0-10% chance of knocking down a player when breaking a block, then a 50% bonus to that doesn't mean much. If you have a 30% chance of knocking a guy down, +30% means a lot more.
unfortunately i have to agree with darren mcfadden my DE(lvl31) has low strength(~50) and high agility(~85) and 7 in heavyweight, i don't think he has knocked any OT's down on running plays or pass plays this season so far
OK thanks for the tip
Originally posted by Darren McFadden
No. It doesn't say "gives a 30% of knocking down players when breaking blocks" it says "gives a +2% BONUS to knocking down a player...".
If you have a 0-10% chance of knocking down a player when breaking a block, then a 50% bonus to that doesn't mean much. If you have a 30% chance of knocking a guy down, +30% means a lot more.
unfortunately i have to agree with darren mcfadden my DE(lvl31) has low strength(~50) and high agility(~85) and 7 in heavyweight, i don't think he has knocked any OT's down on running plays or pass plays this season so far
OK thanks for the tip
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Originally posted by SPYFELLOW
Originally posted by Darren McFadden
No. It doesn't say "gives a 30% of knocking down players when breaking blocks" it says "gives a +2% BONUS to knocking down a player...".
If you have a 0-10% chance of knocking down a player when breaking a block, then a 50% bonus to that doesn't mean much. If you have a 30% chance of knocking a guy down, +30% means a lot more.
unfortunately i have to agree with darren mcfadden my DE(lvl31) has low strength(~50) and high agility(~85) and 7 in heavyweight, i don't think he has knocked any OT's down on running plays or pass plays this season so far
Originally posted by Darren McFadden
No. It doesn't say "gives a 30% of knocking down players when breaking blocks" it says "gives a +2% BONUS to knocking down a player...".
If you have a 0-10% chance of knocking down a player when breaking a block, then a 50% bonus to that doesn't mean much. If you have a 30% chance of knocking a guy down, +30% means a lot more.
unfortunately i have to agree with darren mcfadden my DE(lvl31) has low strength(~50) and high agility(~85) and 7 in heavyweight, i don't think he has knocked any OT's down on running plays or pass plays this season so far
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by SPYFELLOW
Originally posted by Darren McFadden
No. It doesn't say "gives a 30% of knocking down players when breaking blocks" it says "gives a +2% BONUS to knocking down a player...".
If you have a 0-10% chance of knocking down a player when breaking a block, then a 50% bonus to that doesn't mean much. If you have a 30% chance of knocking a guy down, +30% means a lot more.
unfortunately i have to agree with darren mcfadden my DE(lvl31) has low strength(~50) and high agility(~85) and 7 in heavyweight, i don't think he has knocked any OT's down on running plays or pass plays this season so far
are you saying i need more for it to start working?
Originally posted by SPYFELLOW
Originally posted by Darren McFadden
No. It doesn't say "gives a 30% of knocking down players when breaking blocks" it says "gives a +2% BONUS to knocking down a player...".
If you have a 0-10% chance of knocking down a player when breaking a block, then a 50% bonus to that doesn't mean much. If you have a 30% chance of knocking a guy down, +30% means a lot more.
unfortunately i have to agree with darren mcfadden my DE(lvl31) has low strength(~50) and high agility(~85) and 7 in heavyweight, i don't think he has knocked any OT's down on running plays or pass plays this season so far
are you saying i need more for it to start working?
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