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Viscount
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Someone mught have pointed this out before, but I only just noticed that his build is open.

I must say though, I was expecting a bit more from GLB's highest level player.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=29464
 
Octowned
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Only question I have is why the heck is he even paying to boost that player? Rofl pay for 3 more strength or something?

Clearly the build is awful for level 61 but you can't fault a season 1 guy.

My question is, what about that build is keeping him from more touchbacks and missed a 52 yarder this year? He seems to have all the ingredients, how could he not at 61, but isn't performing excellent
 
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Needs more Automatic imo.
 
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Originally posted by Octowned
Only question I have is why the heck is he even paying to boost that player? Rofl pay for 3 more strength or something?

Clearly the build is awful for level 61 but you can't fault a season 1 guy.

My question is, what about that build is keeping him from more touchbacks and missed a 52 yarder this year? He seems to have all the ingredients, how could he not at 61, but isn't performing excellent


I'd boost because it's only < $3 to boost him
 
Saris
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I wasn't bragging when I opened the build, this was the post where I decided to open it...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2530936&page=11

Originally posted by Saris
Originally posted by PackMan97

Originally posted by L Lawliet


Ray Finkle http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=29464


Other than an outstanding S3 (pre-kicking nerf) I fail to see what Finkle has done that distinguishes himself from any other kicker?

I'll nominate a pair of S2 kickers....

Stephen Videtech
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=232797

Puchtit Wright
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=260447

Both of these guys in addition to being great FG kickoffs, are easily two of the best kickoff specialists in GLB. Given the rise of the returner the last few seasons, being able to boom 90% of your kickoffs as touchbacks and forcing the defense to go 80 yards is an important part of the game than Finkle has never really figured out until this season, and even then he isn't that impressive.

Just my $0.02. He's definitely deserves his props for that third season thought. The kicking formula change was not kind to him.


Since I've seen similar posts from you at least 10 times. Which is a lot considering I rarely visit the general forum. I thought I'd finally reply and save you some time by agreeing.

Yes my kicker does suck.

In season one, no one knew about diminishing automatically allocated points after lev 21. And Bort had told us all at the time that there was a hard cap at 100 natural skill points. I didn't want to have his future auto-points wasted by hitting 100 kicking in his mid 40's so I pulled up short on his slowbuild. Which is why he is far and away my worst player. I would have retired him long ago, but people kept convincing me to keep him because he's the highest lev in the game, and it's only 300 flex per season to boost him.

Here, I'll even open his build so no one wastes their time by nominating him for threads like this in the future... and he's a kicker so why not.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=29464

Maybe he's not the worst kicker in the game, but by my standards he's horrendous.

I'm just surprised it took so long for my DT and CB to get a mention... those are builds that would blow minds.



I only did it so people would stfu about this player, because I'm sure there are more deserving kickers with better builds... jesus whatever I do I get hated on...

I hate to defend this build, but he still doesn't have his lev 56 upgrades other than his AE. And as for the Automatic that's all AE other than 2 points, if I ever get a Big Boot AE, which is an area where I've had horrible luck I'll go that route for 16 big boot.

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Saris
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Also you guys are in for a rude awakening if you expect to see a significant increase in your builds from lev 50 on.

Auto points virtually stop. I think I get (0.14) in kicking and confidence per level.

So essentially my kicker's build at 61 is remarkably similar to where it was at 50. The primary difference being that I've raised his agility and speed, because a) there's not much else to raise and b)according to Bort, they do both play into the kicking velocity calculation with agility also having some impact on accuracy.
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Octowned
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Originally posted by Saris
Also you guys are in for a rude awakening if you expect to see a significant increase in your builds from lev 50 on.

Auto points virtually stop. I think I get (0.14) in kicking and confidence per level.

So essentially my kicker's build at 61 is remarkably similar to where it was at 50. The primary difference being that I've raised his agility and speed, because a) there's not much else to raise and b)according to Bort, they do both play into the kicking velocity calculation with agility also having some impact on accuracy.


Which is precisely why I wont be boosting my players at this high of a level.

I'm (pleasantly) surprised you knew the ideas of slowbuilding in season 1. This season 1 player puts my season 1-2 player to shame, actually. Though I guess it is hard to really screw up a level 61 K
 
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I get that you don't like him but I love that you have him open so we can learn. Thank you Saris this is really very cool and unlike glb of you.
 
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Originally posted by Saris
Also you guys are in for a rude awakening if you expect to see a significant increase in your builds from lev 50 on.

Auto points virtually stop. I think I get (0.14) in kicking and confidence per level.

So essentially my kicker's build at 61 is remarkably similar to where it was at 50. The primary difference being that I've raised his agility and speed, because a) there's not much else to raise and b)according to Bort, they do both play into the kicking velocity calculation with agility also having some impact on accuracy.


so i'm interested to know: what would you change with Rays build, if you could, to make it better in your eyes?

 
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needs moar jumping
 


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