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ShinerBock
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First game is in 14 hours and I have set my punter tactics to 100 Hang Time. He has 11 in the Hang Time SA so I am expecting an improvement over what I was seeing last season. I'll post some sort of analysis in this thread after the game.

I would appreciate it if someone could do the same but with 100 Distance and then we could see about drawing some useful conclusions.

I haven't reset my VAs yet (there worth right now is just a few points each since the attribute ones were devalued so heavily, and since I'm a little short on equipment for a L50 I am going to leave them as is and it just looks like I have close to a full set of gear) and only spent some of my SPs.
 
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I can set mine to 100 for distance...
 
CapnEnnui
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I'm gonna try 100 distance this game, 100 hang time next, and see what happens... don't want to do line drives and let big returns develop, but what else does my punter play for but that coveted punt avg trophy???

I wonder if 100 distance plus lots of Hang Time SA is the best combo.
 
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OK, here are my observations from playing one game with 100 Hang Time & 11 Hang Time SA

6 Punts & Ave 44.3 y/p which is about 7yds better than my best game last season. The main difference between now and then is that Jumping is now at 48 (from about 33 or so) and some minor gains just from leveling up 4 times. Oh yeah, and no touchbacks in this game.

Punts (position distance return)
P1. Own36 41 13.5 CC attempt
P2. Opp48.5 42 13.5
P3. Own38 40 20.5
P4. Own47 49 0 CC
P5. Own45.5 44 14 Hang Time
P6. Own16 50 25

- of the 6 punts only 1 of them looked like it actually had decent hang time, a punt from OWN45.5

- ideally should have seen 5 CC attempts, but only saw two. Haven't seen hang time on a CC attempt, could it be that going with HT hurts your chances at attempting a CC?

- still gave up a lot of PR yards.

1 Game Conclusion: It doesn't seem like 100HT has had a noticeable effect on HT punts. Punt distance improved form last year (could be a result of Jumping increase). Fewer CC attempts than expected. No TBs

Build Info:
98P 75C 64V 62S 49A 49J SAs 8-11-9 VAs 11 Clutch

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http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=546444&mode=pbp
 
tbieritz
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I only have a 16 punter but I plan on trying game 1 with punt distance at 100% then 25% then Hang time 25% then Hang time 100%.

It is going to be a small sample size but I am curious how it turns out.
 
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I went 75 distance with the only other differences from last season being the va changes (still have not assigned SAs.)

Saw squat from that 75. Corners had good numbers, still had 2 TBs. I wish I could take care of them. But I was most disappointed in the 2 strait (no corner attempts) punts that only went 38 & 40 yards. Something's wrong.
 
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Game 2 - Breakthrough

P1 Own39.5 61.5 TB CC attempt
P2 Own47 49 CC
P3 Own45.5 30 9.5 Hang Time

I redid my VAs for this game to 14 Nail in Coffin and 15 Streaky. It's probably been at least 2 seasons since I punted more than 60 yards, and it was almost a CC. Only one punt had HT on it, and in my opinion it should have gone farther because it was essentially at the same spot on the field as my first punt.

It looks as if even if you're set to 100HT, before each punt there is some sort of check, maybe a CC check, and if you fail it you punt with HT. If you pass it, it looks like you don't punt with HT at all, even with 11HT SA.

Although the sample is very small, getting rid of Clutch and the attribute VAs and adding NIC & Streaky seems to have improved my CC attempt efficiency, but hasn't made it a sure thing either.
 
choco
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How do you guys measure hang time? Is there a script for that?
 
ShinerBock
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Originally posted by Chocoburgers
How do you guys measure hang time? Is there a script for that?


Just measure by watching:

P3 Hang Time http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=546445&pbp_id=1014629

P1 None http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=546445&pbp_id=1012586
 
kbbl
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I'm more confused. Only 3 punts this scrimmage. 100 hang time. 1 corner attempt, but another that should have been close enough to attempt, but instead went for the hang time, but it was a TB anyway.

So ignoring the coffin attempt the other punts were: from our OPP 46.5 TB (pretty much looked like it crossed the end zone before bouncing (if not at least 45 yards on the fly)

VS our OWN 34 yard when the punt only traveled 34 yards.

It just seems (at least with my punter) that any punt kicked backed up is subject to low distance (sort of like an anti-leg of steel)

 
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with -100, I had a much better game
 
Octowned
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I haven't touched mine and am kicking perfectly. Unless your team kicks in certain areas more often, I wouldn't touch it.
 
4more
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I find that although setting it to distance does give you much better personal stats, hang time gives you more net yards.
 
kbbl
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Next preseason game is going to -100 and then for the last game I may try half way (0) and see if there is a noticeable difference
 
ShinerBock
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Last game was a blowout so maybe that had an impact on performance, either that or I got burned by Streaky.

P1. Own 24.5 31 8.5
P2. Opp 41.5 29 4 Hang time

Nothing to add, and no changes from last time.
 
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