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ArthurRiot
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Ok, I'm gonna preface this with a couple points.

1) This is the first one I've done. They are a shit-ton of data entry, although I'm gonna make a spreadsheet that will make future ones easy to accomplish.

2) I am following Mike Rogers' Plan for Success on this one, and using his formula, although not perfectly. As such, these rankings are unofficial (and controversial, as you will soon find out).

3) I only used a math equation for these rankings; there is no way for me to affect the outcome so long as I input the proper data.

4) I am hoping to have Week 13's Rankings fixed of the error I currently have (Instead of an adjusted SoS in wins vs SoS in losses, they are combined into one compelte SoS).

5) Power Rankings are based on Most Points Earned in the Equation, while in parenthesis you will see the current seeding based on Record.

Without any more adieu... here we go.

RANKINGS

1) Multiple Scorgasms.............61.75 Points (T3rd)
2) Reykjavik Aggies...............61.50 Points (1st)
3) Rohreim Stampede...............61.00 Points (T3rd)
4) Valencia Billy Goats...........57.50 Points (T3rd)
5) Houston Roughnecks.............50.00 Points (2nd)
6) Oxford Eagles..................48.50 Points (8th)
7) Bari Barracudas................46.75 Points (T3rd)
8) (T)Paris Musketeers............42.75 Points (9th)
(T)S., Gl. Policeman Officers..42.75 Points (T10th)
(T)Utopia Devil Dawgs..........42.75 Points (T10th)
11) DFools AllStars................39.75 Points (12th)
12) Oslo Berserkers................37.00 Points (7th)
13) Helsinki Horned Frogs..........29.75 Points (T13th)
14) Kansas Jayhawks................28.50 Points (16th)
15) Madrid Spartans................26.25 Points (T13th)
16) Madrid Maulers.................25.75 Points (T13th)

Yeah... I know. 1, 2, 5, 12 and 14 are all... surprising. But that was the numbers. I am sure that, once I get the SoS math down, the top 5 will adjust properly. But the top 3 spots, if you notice, are separated by less than a point.
 
MrMiyAggie
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interesting. nice job
 
jprietman
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Wow, Oslo is a lot further down than I would have expected. Especially since they beat 5 of the teams that are ranked above them.
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I dont get how the Aggies are not 1st...
 
Dublin
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Looks good man. I'm sorry I haven't really gotten back to you about these yet, things just keep surprising me in real life
 
MrMiyAggie
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Agree with fungus. how can scorgasm be ahead of aggies when the aggies beat scorgasm by 30 points. head to head must be considered as one of the top one or two criteria.
 
ArthurRiot
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No worries Dublin. I understand how things go. Just accept this as my humble attempt to fill in for you.
 
ArthurRiot
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The aggies opponents have a combined record of 56-88. No other team has faced all the cellar talent. They are going set up to face 2 top 5 teams in the last 2 weeks. SoSch balances out, and once again I didn't get that perfectly right (thus the 'beta' in the title and 'unofficial' in the first post). The Scorgasms, however, have faced ALL the top teams, and their previous opponents have a combined record of 75-69.

That's the difference. Counting on the score of a week 4 game in week 12 rankings just isn't cricket.
 
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Well, I don't think the Aggies would be able to beat Scorgasm by 30 points anymore...

but I DO think that Oslo would still easily beat a lot of those teams that are ranked above them.
 
porky
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Thanks, looks good. I have a couple of thoughts.

First, I think it looks good and I understand what you said.

what is SoS? I am sure this is a stupid question

I think we would not be able to beat scorgasm by 30 points, they are new and improved. I do think we will beat them again though, just by like 21

I don't quite understand your logic or the mathematical equation, but then again I never did understand these. But from what I read jprietman get ready, because we have to win so we can gain that .25. Let the blood fly!



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bean3rohman
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Strength of Schedule

I understand that there are some errors/issues here, but man, I hope we (Berserkers) move up from #12!
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ArthurRiot
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Yeah, I think the Aggies, Berserkers, Jayhawks are all skewed due to me not getting the SoSch (Strength of Schedule) stuff worked out perfectly. I'm working on creating a spreadsheet to track all the relevant information, and then another spreadsheet to convert the data easily into the system Mike Rogers created.

The funny part about SoSch is, we all face each other. after week 15, we are ALL at equal SoSch. But I'm working on getting all the numbers right. Still THESE numbers are factually accurate, except that they are not as specific as I'd have liked. I will be breaking down the SoSch into more functional data soon.
 
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Originally posted by ArthurRiot

12) Oslo Berserkers................37.00 Points (7th)


Fucking ouch bro. After all the love I give to the Scorgasm players, you do this?

Do NOT expect me to tip your team the next spread.
 
Mike Rogers
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Originally posted by ArthurRiot

The funny part about SoSch is, we all face each other. after week 15, we are ALL at equal SoSch. But I'm working on getting all the numbers right. Still THESE numbers are factually accurate, except that they are not as specific as I'd have liked. I will be breaking down the SoSch into more functional data soon.


Firstly I know how much effort these take to work out, and so does Dublin who did some last year, so I forgive any errors.

Final Strength of Schedule is only effected by
1) Your own record
2) the record of your Interleague Rivalry game.

But during the season their are big differences in SoS.

Strength of schedule in my rankings is balanced by some very precise mathmatical weighting, which is very hard to describe to AR via GLBs PM system!

The underlying principal is that beating the Jayhawks by 7 points is worth less than beating Bari by 7(for example) because of the Strength of Schedule of teams beaten.

But then you have to factor in that as you win the opponents strength of schedule goes down, and dont get me started on comparitive productivity against common opponents, or 5 game statistical analysis.

I dont use Spreadsheets, so I dont have a format to e-mail out, I suppose I could post my notepad

I am sure that AR will either work it out or adapt the system to suit his available time.
Either way, the effort I am sure is appreciated.

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Mike Rogers
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Originally posted by MrMiyAggie
Agree with fungus. how can scorgasm be ahead of aggies when the aggies beat scorgasm by 30 points. head to head must be considered as one of the top one or two criteria.


Head to head is a tie breaker, but if the head to head is week 1 and the rankings are in week 12 the head to head is rendered a little less relevant and there is not Fair way to adjust for that without making a human decision, which renders using any maths pointless.

You also have the problem of team A beating team B, who beat team C, who beat Team A.
Which win counts more, or less?
 
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