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VJHawk
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For a WR is it more important to get your speed 4 capped 74 first or to get your catching to 3 cap 68 first? Assuming you're starting with 68 and 61 respectively.

Basically I'm asking if it's better to have more speed or a slightly bigger catching radius. Catching seems to have no effect on drops.
 
jewness
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Speed. As of now, I see no reason to get catching to the 68 cap. ever.
 
Viscount
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Originally posted by jewness
Speed. As of now, I see no reason to get catching to the 68 cap. ever.


Then you will never ever build a truly succesful WR.

That said, speed is still more important than catching.
 
Mob-6
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Originally posted by jewness
Speed. As of now, I see no reason to get catching to the 68 cap. ever.


Didn't Bort say he was going to make the catching attribute more important this season? 68 catching would be godly if you can afford it.
Last edited Apr 14, 2009 16:59:34
 
JD Cuda
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68-catching is where it's at, baby.
 
Blamo
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68 catching is definitely the new standard that WRs should go for... but building a speedster with less than 74 speed also seems silly. WRs can get by with 55-60 for a fairly long time, though.
 
jewness
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If 68 is godly, shouldn't these WRs have very little drops (atleast in comparision to WRs with merely capped catching)? Theres receivers with 68 catching who post 20 drops a season, and WRs with 30 catching who have 10 drops a season with similar targeting %s. That being said, catching, even if Bort makes it more relevant, will probably never be more important then speed. Unless you have a specialized build. Even then, the advantage of going above the second cap doesn't seem worth it. Unless somebody has a third-capped catching receiver who is doing awesome, that'd be interesting to see. Please post if you have such a receiver and that is doing well. I am by no means flaming, just genuinely curious if people with 68 catching (which means neglecting something else be it speed, vision, agility, SAs etc) DO have any merit.
 
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Originally posted by Mob-6
Originally posted by jewness

Speed. As of now, I see no reason to get catching to the 68 cap. ever.


Didn't Bort say he was going to make the catching attribute more important this season? 68 catching would be godly if you can afford it.


That's why I said as of NOW. But, you never know what Bort will "fix" next...
 
whatje
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catching (theoretically) increases the number of balls a receiver drops b/c they are categorized as dropped instead of either deflected or incomplete, in general. the merits of 68 catching aren't certain though if you account for what you miss out on. i'm building a possession receiver w/ 68 catching (maybe 74), i'll let u know how it goes pickle
Last edited Apr 15, 2009 18:51:43
 
JD Cuda
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^ Funny. I increased nothing besides catching last season and noticed no difference in drops. (Went from 4 in season 7 to 3 in season 8).
 
whatje
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/shrug, 56% completion to u for some reason. i got nothing.
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JD Cuda
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Originally posted by whatje
/shrug, 56% completion to u for some reason. i got nothing.


down from 60% the season before
most likely because of a slight change in team philosophy: longer routes for my WR last season
 
Kryzantine
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Catching affects the general area around the WR he can attempt to make the catch. If the QB is constant in the distance he's off by a receiver, say 4 feet; the receiver w/ 30 catching will not attempt to grab it, ruling the pass incomplete, while the receiver with 68 catching will attempt to grab it, but if he fails in the grab, it counts as a drop. That's why high catch WRs encounter more drops, because their catching isn't so good enough as to always make that difficult grab. If his total # of catches is higher, then people attribute that to speed or agility, instead of catching.

I'm trying to build such a WR, recently softcapped speed leaving me to continue to improve catching. His agility and catching leads to him getting the catches, and combined with a nice 4.5 YAC, has picked up some very good first downs. I've heard some insane stuff has happened once people hit 80. You know,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aojQyZMQC3o
 
tet
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Originally posted by Kryzantine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aojQyZMQC3o


yikes, that's a seriously sick catch.
 
Kryzantine
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I think to make that kind of guy in GLB, I'd need about 90 catching, 50 jumping, a whole lot of confidence and about 40 vision.
 
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