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Robbnva
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does it REALLY work?
 
Asheme
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Probably.
 
toppshelff
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I'm almost positive that it might... perhaps.
 
Robbnva
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wow great help here

how about this, anyone with vision at 60+
 
hairic
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Me, but I'm not boosting or playing it anymore, just a motivational speaker.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=263129
 
GoodEyeClosed
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yep
 
toppshelff
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Boldly states with no evidence whatsoever...

vision > strength
 
kbbl
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I believe it does. My guy has 57 in vision and punted 1/2 of his punts out of bounds (42 <20) I figure it was ~66% of all his punts that had a shot of being a touchback. Can't back it up, but I thing 60 vision is a good goal.
 
hairic
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Of my 98 punts last season, 7 were touchbacks. One of my four attributes was responsible.

A better number would be the ratio of punts out of bounds to touchbacks, though. An even better number would be to watch which kicks heading out of bounds were picked up and returned.

But that's madness.
 
GoodEyeClosed
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Originally posted by toppshelff
Boldly states with no evidence whatsoever...

vision > strength


With 147 punters to your credit, I'm not convinced the first statement is true...



I will add that my punters average for season 6 (before the nerf) was 53.7 yds/punt with well below 2nd cap str and higher than 2nd cap vision.
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GoodEyeClosed
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Originally posted by hairic
Of my 98 punts last season, 7 were touchbacks. One of my four attributes was responsible.

A better number would be the ratio of punts out of bounds to touchbacks, though. An even better number would be to watch which kicks heading out of bounds were picked up and returned.

But that's madness.


somebody needs to write a greasemonkey script for that!
 
Octowned
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I have a feeling strength doesn't do much at all for a punter. It is a minor - so is tackling. It doesn't move the punting bar (confidence, agility, vision, punting do), and Bort has stated that he wished he put in leg strength as an attribute (and acceleration, but that's a different topic!). Combine all of that, and the multiple 90 strength builds that don't do very well, and I have smelly suspicion that even capping strength is too much strength.

Oh, vision? Vision is great, it is what determines if you TRY a coffin corner, that is my new theory atleast. Vision, confidence, punting, current score/morale/energy, will determine the roll for actually succeeding. I'd advise any punter to have 60 vision. Don't spend 3:1 though IMO
 
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I brought this up a while back in this forum but was kind of shot down. If you look at training, normal training for strength is the bench press which would suggest that strength alone is upper body strength. But on intense training you get the leg press which is strength and jumping. So maybe strength alone doesn't do a punter much good, but strength and jumping means a stronger leg?
 


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