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Vision has always been a questionable attribute for WRs, but with all of Bort's proposed updates in the off-season, how important will vision be?

According to the Changelog WRs will now have a vision check to react to bad passes. Also, the CBs who invested in Smooth Operator to get Shutdown Coverage will have the benefit of that previously useless SA now reducing a WRs vision when they're in man coverage.

I think Smooth Operator is going to be a bigger factor than the vision check... Even then, I can't imagine that much more than the softcap for vision is going to be really needed. I just couldn't imagine Bort making it so another skill has to be at 60-68 for WRs not to be gimped in some way. As it is WR probably has to wait the longest to become a good player. WRs before level 20 or so are pretty lol worthy.

Originally posted by Blamo
I think Smooth Operator is going to be a bigger factor than the vision check... Even then, I can't imagine that much more than the softcap for vision is going to be really needed. I just couldn't imagine Bort making it so another skill has to be at 60-68 for WRs not to be gimped in some way. As it is WR probably has to wait the longest to become a good player. WRs before level 20 or so are pretty lol worthy.

not true all postions take time to become a good , wr's dont have to wait the longest

It'll be more important than season 7, and more important the lower vision your QB has imo...

I think its kinda dumb. How many times in the nfl, college, and even highschool do you see WR or TEs getting hit in the back with a ball. I think if the reciever knows it's a pass play he's going to most likely be expecting the ball. It happens occasionally but has no place in this game. In a build it's an advantage a receiver has over a cb.(not needing vision)

Originally posted by Darrick213
I think its kinda dumb. How many times in the nfl, college, and even highschool do you see WR or TEs getting hit in the back with a ball. I think if the reciever knows it's a pass play he's going to most likely be expecting the ball. It happens occasionally but has no place in this game. In a build it's an advantage a receiver has over a cb.(not needing vision)


roy williams is a great example of a highly talented wr with vey low field awareness, equivalent of vision in glb ... marvin harrision or tory holt would be examples of wr's with high field awarness(vision) ... understand the difference?

ever see a blind wide receiver? Or any player for that matter? Vision should be more important than it is right now, for all positions.

Originally posted by Herman Moore
ever see a blind wide receiver? Or any player for that matter? Vision should be more important than it is right now, for all positions.

+1

Originally posted by Herman Moore
ever see a blind wide receiver? Or any player for that matter? Vision should be more important than it is right now, for all positions.

LOL I can't stop laughing.

Originally posted by Darrick213
I think its kinda dumb. How many times in the nfl, college, and even highschool do you see WR or TEs getting hit in the back with a ball. I think if the reciever knows it's a pass play he's going to most likely be expecting the ball. It happens occasionally but has no place in this game. In a build it's an advantage a receiver has over a cb.(not needing vision)


and may i add its an UNFAIR advantage since a cb has to work on the same attributes(if not more) that a wr has + Vision to be effective in pass coverage

I was under the impression vision helped more catching the ball not getting open.

Originally posted by Granted86
Originally posted by Darrick213

I think its kinda dumb. How many times in the nfl, college, and even highschool do you see WR or TEs getting hit in the back with a ball. I think if the reciever knows it's a pass play he's going to most likely be expecting the ball. It happens occasionally but has no place in this game. In a build it's an advantage a receiver has over a cb.(not needing vision)


and may i add its an UNFAIR advantage since a cb has to work on the same attributes(if not more) that a wr has + Vision to be effective in pass coverage


That is not true. CBs do not need Catching to be effective.

Originally posted by drakeborn
Originally posted by Granted86

Originally posted by Darrick213


I think its kinda dumb. How many times in the nfl, college, and even highschool do you see WR or TEs getting hit in the back with a ball. I think if the reciever knows it's a pass play he's going to most likely be expecting the ball. It happens occasionally but has no place in this game. In a build it's an advantage a receiver has over a cb.(not needing vision)


and may i add its an UNFAIR advantage since a cb has to work on the same attributes(if not more) that a wr has + Vision to be effective in pass coverage


That is not true. CBs do not need Catching to be effective.

how would we get ints?
its easier to get open then it is to follow someone step for step
even harder to follow someone step for step AND make a play on the ball when the qb is throwing the ball away from them

CBs don't needs INTS to be effective. They don't need catching to be effective.

may be worth considering that vision is also football smarts, not just literally "seeing the field with clarity" as Jaws likes to say, but knowing how to react and be in the right place based on football knowledge. (Note the vet ability that gives the vision boost is called "Football Genius")