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JHight
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Good or should I keep rolling? This is for my FS.
Last edited Feb 7, 2009 11:23:39
 
Underdawg08
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nice
 
RAPB
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That's a good piece for sure!
 
Cactus71
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yea get it
 
dratleff
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Thought's on these for a level 12 SS?

Superior Grey Gloves
+1 strength
+1 Sticky Hands SA
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$41200

Superior Blue Cleats
+1 jumping
+1 Swat Ball SA
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$20900
 
Riggs_Inator
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I'm not a fan of the Swat Ball SA. Has minimal effects if any. Too often I see a guy with 9+ in Swat Ball, deflecting less passes than a guy with 3 in it.
 
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by Riggs_Inator
I'm not a fan of the Swat Ball SA. Has minimal effects if any. Too often I see a guy with 9+ in Swat Ball, deflecting less passes than a guy with 3 in it.


hah my deflections went up big time from last season when I added 2 in swat ball beginning of this season, bringing it to 5 with custom. I noticed he was getting around the ball, so figured it would help, and it certainly did.
 
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Originally posted by Riggs_Inator
I'm not a fan of the Swat Ball SA. Has minimal effects if any. Too often I see a guy with 9+ in Swat Ball, deflecting less passes than a guy with 3 in it.


You need the "real" attributes in the first place, then the SA on top. So a 9 in Swat Ball isn't going to work unless you got the right agility, speed, vision, strength and jumping.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Riggs_Inator

I'm not a fan of the Swat Ball SA. Has minimal effects if any. Too often I see a guy with 9+ in Swat Ball, deflecting less passes than a guy with 3 in it.


hah my deflections went up big time from last season when I added 2 in swat ball beginning of this season, bringing it to 5 with custom. I noticed he was getting around the ball, so figured it would help, and it certainly did.


Are you 100% positive it wasn't VA's and attribute increases that did that and not swat ball?

I had 22 more PD's than last season. I added 1 to swat ball since last season to increase super vision. People with similar attributes/VA but more swat ball, had a lot less. Highly doubt those were because of 1 point in Swat Ball.
 
Underdawg08
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No when I boosted, before the season, I added 2 to swat ball and the rest to str. to bring it up to 61. my v.a's at the beginning of the season were all put in power tackler(10). I just started putting v.a points in other things. 3 quick, 3 football genius, and more recently 2 in Jack Hammer.
Last edited Feb 11, 2009 00:03:47
 
Asheme
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I've been thinking about this lately. My SS only has 3 in Swat Ball (with custom), but has always deflected a ton of passes (for a SS), and had 51 this season. I'm wondering if pumping SB up will push that number astronomically high, or not really do much to help. I have yet to see a build with high SB up close and personal, so I'm a bit skeptical.
 
Cactus71
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do you think swat ball might help the quality of a pass deflection?
 
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by Asheme
I've been thinking about this lately. My SS only has 3 in Swat Ball (with custom), but has always deflected a ton of passes (for a SS), and had 51 this season. I'm wondering if pumping SB up will push that number astronomically high, or not really do much to help. I have yet to see a build with high SB up close and personal, so I'm a bit skeptical.


If you're getting pass deflections already , why bother? I did it only because I noticed my guy wasn't getting P.D's but he should have. And raising it 2 points helped me. It might not help every build out there. Swat ball is probably just making up for the fact he has low vision. He is a pure run stuffing S.S. he is mediocre to average in pass defense.
Last edited Feb 12, 2009 07:10:09
 
Riggs_Inator
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Originally posted by Cactus71
do you think swat ball might help the quality of a pass deflection?


That's what I've thought. Probably increases the amount you degrade the pass quality more so than it does increase your ability to get a deflection. Because it does say "Increases chance to Swat the ball down" rather than "Increase chance to Deflect the Pass". Since a lot of deflections are still caught.
 
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+3 agil +1 aura of intimidation gloves..
hmm
Last edited Feb 13, 2009 07:22:28
 
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