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Blamo
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I know the popular line of thought with receiving TE's is to go speed heavy to try and out run the TE and get big chunks of yardage... but has anybody tried a WR that is basically a possession receiver? Since LBs tend to have less jumping/catching than a WR... it would make sense that a TE would thus need less jumping/catching/vision to stop PDs and cause a mismatch in that way.

Anybody have a TE that has tried this, and have they had any success? I'm not looking for gaudy numbers so much as I'm looking for someone who'll catch everything that's thrown his way, especially in the 7-15 yard range. Someone who I can heavily lean on in 3rd and medium/longish situations would be worth their weight in gold IMO.

I'm thinking 60's across the board for my "main" attributes (catching, vision, speed, agility, and jumping) would be good goals to settle for?
 
drakeborn
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The problem with a possession TE is that even if he'll catch anything thrown his way, very little will actually get thrown his way to begin with. Unfortunately, the way the checkdowns seem to work, is that a WR who gains separation is going to be targeted before you almost all the time. That's why TEs built to gain separation seem to do so well. Just some food for thought...it may well not be very nourishing.
 
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I also thought that vertical separation also applied into this, however, and is part of the reason why possession receivers work. They don't get good separation down the field, but they can create enough separation vertically and through positioning that they get their targets that way. Or am I mistaken in that regard?
 
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Originally posted by Blamo
I also thought that vertical separation also applied into this, however, and is part of the reason why possession receivers work. They don't get good separation down the field, but they can create enough separation vertically and through positioning that they get their targets that way. Or am I mistaken in that regard?

In real life yes. But from what I've seen not so much in GLB. Or at least not in the last few seasons.

If you are going to do a possession TE, what I'd advise is to leave speed at 48, pump agility higher with those points. If you're looking for short routes separation then agility is the main thing. Apart from what you've mentioned I've got an inkling that strength is underrated. In the fight for the ball in the air. Don't take it to 60 but train it ahead of say blocking and possibly on a par with jumping. It also has the advantage of letting the TE help out blocking wise and maybe the odd broken tackle.
 
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I am currently doing the possession TE experiment... And I capped str to 48
 
Dump To Gates
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I currently have jumping at 57, 44 str, 66 agi 77 spd. My original idea was to make him a possession type TE, and not worry so much about speed. If I had to do it again, I would bring vision and confidence up with less speed and more agility. I'm training str to see if that might help also
 
Xelstyle
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Something that somebody should try is high agility/jumping. I have a feeling that a build with these 2 attributes should dominate LBs quite easily. A lot of guys are just pumping speed, and LBs are no exception. Very rarely will you break a LB's tackle with strength, but you can probably get open with agility and possibly "ghost" through him. Of course, if that doesn't work then there's jumping. Most LBs have only 20-30 jumping, and if you not only softcap it, but take it farther, who's going to stop you from getting the ball?

High agility TE: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=931359
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Titus Pullo
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I am going the possesion receiver TE route with my TE. He is only level 24 right now but has been very effective in some of our games.
 
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I have noticed that is seems that my guy has a better stat line when we are out leveled by the defense. I believe that when we are in more evenly matched contests, the WRs on the team are good enough to get open and thus the QB gets them the ball more and my TE is not looked at much. But when we are outmatched, the WRs seem to struggle getting open and the QB looks to my TE more. Since my TE does well when leaned on and playing against superior compotition, I can only conclude that my build is so far a good one, even though it is not finished.
 
drakeborn
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Originally posted by Titus Pullo
I have noticed that is seems that my guy has a better stat line when we are out leveled by the defense. I believe that when we are in more evenly matched contests, the WRs on the team are good enough to get open and thus the QB gets them the ball more and my TE is not looked at much. But when we are outmatched, the WRs seem to struggle getting open and the QB looks to my TE more. Since my TE does well when leaned on and playing against superior compotition, I can only conclude that my build is so far a good one, even though it is not finished.


I recently posted something similar regarding my possession receiver. I too have noticed that speed receivers will get more of the looks when playing outleveled teams to the point that possession builds may get none at all. However, when evenly matched or outmatched, the possession receiver/TE gets more throws. I can only assume that this means that possession type attributes come in to the QB's consideration mostly when no one has gained separation and is tightly covered.
 
BigRick70
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Originally posted by Xelstyle
Something that somebody should try is high agility/jumping. I have a feeling that a build with these 2 attributes should dominate LBs quite easily. A lot of guys are just pumping speed, and LBs are no exception. Very rarely will you break a LB's tackle with strength, but you can probably get open with agility and possibly "ghost" through him. Of course, if that doesn't work then there's jumping. Most LBs have only 20-30 jumping, and if you not only softcap it, but take it farther, who's going to stop you from getting the ball?

High agility TE: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=931359


be careful, some LBs think like you and pump that agi
 
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Originally posted by Titus Pullo
I have noticed that is seems that my guy has a better stat line when we are out leveled by the defense. I believe that when we are in more evenly matched contests, the WRs on the team are good enough to get open and thus the QB gets them the ball more and my TE is not looked at much. But when we are outmatched, the WRs seem to struggle getting open and the QB looks to my TE more. Since my TE does well when leaned on and playing against superior compotition, I can only conclude that my build is so far a good one, even though it is not finished.


Your OC needs to call more TE primary plays then.
 
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Originally posted by BigRick70
Originally posted by Xelstyle

Something that somebody should try is high agility/jumping. I have a feeling that a build with these 2 attributes should dominate LBs quite easily. A lot of guys are just pumping speed, and LBs are no exception. Very rarely will you break a LB's tackle with strength, but you can probably get open with agility and possibly "ghost" through him. Of course, if that doesn't work then there's jumping. Most LBs have only 20-30 jumping, and if you not only softcap it, but take it farther, who's going to stop you from getting the ball?

High agility TE: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=931359


be careful, some LBs think like you and pump that agi


I know of only 1 LB who has enough agility to keep up with the guy in my last post, but he'll get burned deep easily. And if another LB has the equivalent agility and enough speed to not get burned, he'll basically be the same as a S6 LB, which are horrible against the rush. Luckily receivers don't need to waste extra points into tackling/strength, so they can gain a better advantage if the points are in the right spot.
 
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your being selfish IMO. a good speed TE brings away coverage and opens up the field. people seem to think TE's have 3 directions to go and I think that is misleading.
we are not meant to all be like the good quick out pass TE's you see in the NFL. at least not this season.
anythings possible I guess though.

speed, speed, speed.
 
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With the new D Play Creator, we're going to see more safeties and CBs covering receiving TEs. Should be interesting, at least.
 
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