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I would like to see your choice from each Conference, or if you feel more comfortable just from your conference.


My picks,

Eastern Conference:
Over-Rated: USAORG Exiles
Under-Rated: New Jersey Vikings

Western Conference:
Over-Rated: Radio City Irrelevants
UnderRated: Sandy Hook Proving Grounds

Hey. thanks for the appreciation. This is my 2nd full year as NJ Vikings GM and thought we were underrated last season as well(between this and school, I really bust my butt). But I also take appreciation as I was the OC that got the Vikings their first win ever.

My Picks,

Eastern Conference
Over-Rated: McLuney Mayhem - should be 5-3, didn't show up against wildcats. Beat New Jersey on a fluke, NJ missed a PAT and went for it on 4th down up by 6 at the OPP 19 with less than 2 mins, FG there puts the game away, NJ also should have gone for the FG at the 33 last play. Also lost to Buncha Nobodies.

Under-Rated: New Jersey Vikings - should be undefeated

I haven't followed the west enough to know.

Originally posted by Lewk57

Over-Rated: McLuney Mayhem


Nice, we are "rated" 6th, behind a team we beat by nearly 20 points and Danbury lost to in USA.

I truly think there are a number of teams that CAN beat us, Danbury, USAORG, New Jersey, Tulsa, and Buncha, but the difference is in the pudding on who DID/WILL beat us.

Of course I left out Las Vegas because we all know they will beat all of us in the east.

We gave New Jersey their only loss (until today), beat USA, lost to Buncha by 1.

Danbury is 0-2 against playoff bound teams so far, McLuney is 2-2 against playoff bound teams.

We should be 11-2 when we get to the tough end to our season with 3 playoff teams in a row in Tulsa, Cleveland, and Danbury.

So, in my opinion at worst we finish 11-5 with a legit shot to finish 13-3 or 14-2. If that's "overrated" then its fine by me, I'll be overrated.

Right now its all about getting a home playoff game, that's what I care about for the team's financials.

So as long as we finish anywhere from 2nd to 4th, I'll be happy. You are only guaranteed 1 playoff game, might as well worry about making that one a home game.

Originally posted by Korhor
I would like to see your choice from each Conference, or if you feel more comfortable just from your conference.


My picks,

Eastern Conference:
Over-Rated: USAORG Exiles
Under-Rated: New Jersey Vikings



I'll actually go with your list. I really expected to lose to USA to be honest with all the hype, how bad they had beat some teams compared to us, etc. Then we beat them by 17. Not today, but their next 2 games should tell where they end up. They play the top 2 teams in the conference in a row in Las Vegas and New Jersey.

I say New Jersey is underrated because their only loss is to us, and it was by 1 point, and some interesting AI was used at the end, whether it was a bad setup by them or a SIM glitch, we'll never know. But they had a legit shot to win with a long FG that was never attempted. For all intents and purposes they could be undefeated.

Originally posted by jmog
Originally posted by Lewk57


Over-Rated: McLuney Mayhem


Nice, we are "rated" 6th, behind a team we beat by nearly 20 points and Danbury lost to in USA.

I truly think there are a number of teams that CAN beat us, Danbury, USAORG, New Jersey, Tulsa, and Buncha, but the difference is in the pudding on who DID/WILL beat us.

Of course I left out Las Vegas because we all know they will beat all of us in the east.

We gave New Jersey their only loss (until today), beat USA, lost to Buncha by 1.

Danbury is 0-2 against playoff bound teams so far, McLuney is 2-2 against playoff bound teams.

We should be 11-2 when we get to the tough end to our season with 3 playoff teams in a row in Tulsa, Cleveland, and Danbury.

So, in my opinion at worst we finish 11-5 with a legit shot to finish 13-3 or 14-2. If that's "overrated" then its fine by me, I'll be overrated.

Right now its all about getting a home playoff game, that's what I care about for the team's financials.

So as long as we finish anywhere from 2nd to 4th, I'll be happy. You are only guaranteed 1 playoff game, might as well worry about making that one a home game.

I tend to put more weight in who you lost to rather than who you beat. It is who is currently over rated.

Wildcats are the top team, NJ lost once to a 6-2 team so I put them as underrated. USA Lost to an undefeated team and a 6-2 team so they belong. Tulsa lost to an undefeated team and a 6-2 team so as of today they belong. McLuney lost to an undefeated team and lost to a 5-3 team so your team got over-rated. Danbury lost to an undefeated team and a 6-2 team.

New Jersey, Mcluney, USA, Tulsa and Danbury are fighting for the last 3 home playoff games. you are in good position for that as are all the 6-2 teams. I think 4 losses for any one of those teams puts them on the outside looking in. I am not sure of tie breakers for the playoffs but it is going to be a battle.

Tie breakers go like this...

If only 2 teams are tied for that spot, it goes as head to head, whoever won.

If 3 or more teams are tied then I think it goes points scored.

I could be wrong on that one, but I think that's it.

I just think going by who you lost to and not considering who you beat is kind of bad logic.

So, New Jersey is the #2 team (I agree) in your mind, and is underrated, but yet McLuney beat them (albeit by 1) and we are over rated because we lost by 1 to Buncha Nobodies (a game when our K had 3 missed FGs and a missed XP).

Our only other loss is to the team that everyone in the league will lose to. So I think its safe to say we can throw that team out of the talks.

Take Las Vegas away and we have lost 1 game, New Jersey has lost 1 game, USA has lost 1 game (unlucky to have played the top team in the west week 1), Danbury has only lost 1.

Now, Danbury yes, lost to USA, McLuney lost to Buncha, and New Jersey lost to McLuney, and USA lost to McLuney. While losing to USA and McLuney looks better than losing to Buncha, you can't neglect the fact that 2 of those losses listed there out of 3 non-McLuney teams, came at the hands of McLuney.

I predict McLuney will finish 2nd or 3rd seed, if that's "over rated" then so be it, I'll take it.

Originally posted by jmog
Tie breakers go like this...

If only 2 teams are tied for that spot, it goes as head to head, whoever won.

If 3 or more teams are tied then I think it goes points scored.

I could be wrong on that one, but I think that's it.

I just think going by who you lost to and not considering who you beat is kind of bad logic.

So, New Jersey is the #2 team (I agree) in your mind, and is underrated, but yet McLuney beat them (albeit by 1) and we are over rated because we lost by 1 to Buncha Nobodies (a game when our K had 3 missed FGs and a missed XP).

Our only other loss is to the team that everyone in the league will lose to. So I think its safe to say we can throw that team out of the talks.

Take Las Vegas away and we have lost 1 game, New Jersey has lost 1 game, USA has lost 1 game (unlucky to have played the top team in the west week 1), Danbury has only lost 1.

Now, Danbury yes, lost to USA, McLuney lost to Buncha, and New Jersey lost to McLuney, and USA lost to McLuney. While losing to USA and McLuney looks better than losing to Buncha, you can't neglect the fact that 2 of those losses listed there out of 3 non-McLuney teams, came at the hands of McLuney.

I predict McLuney will finish 2nd or 3rd seed, if that's "over rated" then so be it, I'll take it.



OK that's fine, I guess we will see as the season goes on who is over rated and who is under rated. hopefully the last game of the season will be for am important spot. I think Danbury will have a home playoff game, i really don't care 1,2,3 or 4. i hope it comes down to a points tie breaker. Danbury is in good shape for that.

I thought this topic would get some blood pumping...

;-)

but where is the West???

Originally posted by Korhor

but where is the West???

Right here

Overrated:
I hate to say it, but we might be a tad overrated. The game against Missouri will prove whether we are a top-2 team or a top-3 team. Right now I think Missouri and Pasadena are a bit better than us. Time will tell though....
Other than that, Radio City is definitely overrated.

Underrated:
Riverhead and JC. Riverhead put up a good fight a couple weeks ago and I'm not looking forward to our matchup with JC at all....


Thanks for taking the time to do the projections and threads like these. They certainly liven up the forum a bit

This is the playoff Tie Breaker

How are ties broken in the standing?
-----a. If there are only 2 teams, it's just based upon the head-to-head matchup
-----b. If there are more than 2 teams, then it's based upon these factor in this order:
1. # of head-to-head wins against the other teams with the same record
2. # of points scored
3. # of points allowed.

No blood pumping on my end, I don't care at mid season whether my team is over rated or under-rated, I just want a home playoff game and see what happens from there. I know my team has played tough no matter if we won or lost so whoever we play is going to be in for a battle.

Originally posted by Lewk57


OK that's fine, I guess we will see as the season goes on who is over rated and who is under rated. hopefully the last game of the season will be for am important spot. I think Danbury will have a home playoff game, i really don't care 1,2,3 or 4. i hope it comes down to a points tie breaker. Danbury is in good shape for that.

I stand corrected.

To determine the winner of a tie within a Conference the following Tiebreakers go into effect:

If there are only 2 teams tied (same record), higher seed is the winner of the head-to-head match up.
If there are more than 2 teams tied (same record), then it's based upon these factor in this order:
Number of head-to-head wins against the other tied teams with the same record.
Number of total points scored.
Number of total points allowed.


So, the reason, right now, that USAORG is the highest rated 6-2 team is because they have 2 wins against 6-2 teams in Danbury and Tulsa and McLuney has only 1 in USAORG. Tulsa and Danbury have 0 wins vs other 6-2 teams so right now they are ranked on points scored compared to each other.

I like this way of doing it, that way if 3 teams are tied at say 13-3 and if one team had beat the other 2 but happened to lose 3 other games, then they should be the higher seed.

With the way its done, there is no doubt in my mind that the Danbury/McLuney game late in the season will probably determine one the tie breaker for a playoff seed.

Originally posted by Korhor
I thought this topic would get some blood pumping...

;-)

but where is the West???

nah, just healthy discussion.

Even the GLB tie breaker system rates who you beat over who you lost to .

Originally posted by jmog
Originally posted by Korhor

I thought this topic would get some blood pumping...

;-)

but where is the West???

nah, just healthy discussion.

Even the GLB tie breaker system rates who you beat over who you lost to .

So then in theory no one is over rated, USA is the best 6-2 so they are ahead of McLuney and then Danbury and Tulsa are behind. NJ is still under-rated

Right now, since the whole season hasn't played out and we haven't all played each other, yes, USA has more wins vs 6-2 teams than the rest of us.

However, that's only a great use of the tie breaker come the end of the season when we've played each other.

Head to head McLuney beat USA by 17. We just haven't played Danbury or Tulsa yet like they have.

I would say, until we lose to one of these said teams, McLuney should be ranked the best of the 6-2's, we beat USA and beat the 7-1 New Jersey team with only a 1 pt loss to a 5-3 Buncha team.

Now, if Tulsa or Danbury knock us off, then by all means, we were "over rated".