Warrior General Games

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'll be gaining three natural levels this season, and I have no clue what to do with my 15 SPs. With two stats at the four cap, everything's so frickkin expensive that I need some sorta long term plan, cause five points can't do squat with my current build. Should I pour more points into Spd or Vis or should I spread it out to minor attributes like Tkl or Jmp? Maybe I should put a couple more points into wrap up tackle SA? I'm trying to roll AEQ, and I want to leave space for getting either a CS or SV piece, so no points in either this season.

Strength: 30.55
Blocking: 18.11
Speed: 93.12
Tackling: 40.82
Agility: 70.12
Throwing: 8
Jumping: 32.4
Catching: 33.64
Stamina: 45.37
Carrying: 15.81
Vision: 68.63
Kicking: 8
Confidence: 27.87
Punting:10

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I clearly don't have a player anywhere near level 46, so take this with a grain of salt.

I hear good things about having 40+ jumping. Maybe it applies more to CBs, but still, that's what I hear.

If not that, I'd be tempted to put it into confidence myself. Seems silly to have it that low. (And I'd love to know if you see a noticible difference if / when you go that route )

I like what you've done, though. Very much so.

Originally posted by KangarWhoDey
I clearly don't have a player anywhere near level 46, so take this with a grain of salt.


Just because I've been around awhile, doesn't mean I know what I'm doing As I complained about already, I get SPs so infrequently, I feel incredible pressure to make good use of 'em. Jumping is a good suggestion, it helps CBs, and both positions play coverage. I would like to know whether Jmp or Cat is more important for playing pass coverage. I've heard good arguments for both, so I've been keeping 'em roughly equal, which is probably getting me the worst of both worlds.

As for confidence, I was training it in the offseason, but after all the Powerback stuff, I decided to switch to that. Con could well pay big dividends (after Tpat recently claimed it's really important) but I've been leery of something that indirect.

Thanks for the advice.

Originally posted by Capaneus
I've heard good arguments for both, so I've been keeping 'em roughly equal, which is probably getting me the worst of both worlds.


Well the motto I'd tend to go by, is I'd rather get the situation before i worried about being successful at the situation.

It's kind of like building a linebacker for me. I know I need tackling to make a tackle, but I'm still going to get speed and agility up first. The tackling doesn't do me any good if I'm not in position to make the play.

I feel jumping/catching is the same type of scenario. I'd rather get to the ball and not catch it than be able to catch it but not get to it. So I'd raise jumping first. Worst that's going to happen is you get to more balls and deflect them.

Originally posted by Aanidar


Well the motto I'd tend to go by, is I'd rather get the situation before i worried about being successful at the situation.

It's kind of like building a linebacker for me. I know I need tackling to make a tackle, but I'm still going to get speed and agility up first. The tackling doesn't do me any good if I'm not in position to make the play.

I feel jumping/catching is the same type of scenario. I'd rather get to the ball and not catch it than be able to catch it but not get to it. So I'd raise jumping first. Worst that's going to happen is you get to more balls and deflect them.

Yeah, I'd love for Bort to confirm that one is more important than the other, but the counter argument is that while Jmp increases your vertical catch check range, Cat increases your horizontal catch check range.

Get some diving catch AEQ ;-)

Originally posted by Aanidar

I'd rather get to the ball and not catch it than be able to catch it but not get to it. So I'd raise jumping first. Worst that's going to happen is you get to more balls and deflect them.

This has been my thinking as well.

Leave space for your SA? they don't max out...Hell take that SV to 14!

Not all the SAs have diminsihing returns, the only one's Bort commented on were pump fake, and juke, to stop them from going crazy...
Most of them at 10+ are great.
I got a DE with 13 TV, I want more

Yeah, I went and looked, and most CBs have Jmp higher than Cat, so you guys are likely right.

I would use the SP to get jumping to 40 and dump the rest into vision. If you are looking for an intense training combo after doing that, I would go strength/tackling.

I have no idea why people are wanting to put points into Jumping. Safeties are rarely in Man-to-Man cover, and if they are there are either 4 or 5 WRs on the field. A safeties job is to not intercept the ball but rather make the tackle if/when it presents itself. Safeties only make interceptions when the ball is overthrown or tipped... rarely while covering a TE or WR.

I would put points into Speed, Agility, Vision, Stamina, Tackling, Strength, Confidence... in that order barring any capping issues. Jumping would be near last on the list right near Kicking and Punting.

You do realize that jumping helps with more than just interceptions right? It also factors into PD's and diving tackles.

Just train jumping up to 40+. That's what I have done. I'd probably spend some points on Swat Ball. That's what I want to do with my safety soon. He can react and read plays well, just doesn't get many PD's.

Originally posted by Challenge Everything
I have no idea why people are wanting to put points into Jumping. Safeties are rarely in Man-to-Man cover, and if they are there are either 4 or 5 WRs on the field. A safeties job is to not intercept the ball but rather make the tackle if/when it presents itself. Safeties only make interceptions when the ball is overthrown or tipped... rarely while covering a TE or WR.

I would put points into Speed, Agility, Vision, Stamina, Tackling, Strength, Confidence... in that order barring any capping issues. Jumping would be near last on the list right near Kicking and Punting.

Jumping is good for pass deflecting, and tackling. Not only intercepting. As the guy above me stated.

Like I said, we are talking about safeties here. They need to read and see the play and get into position to make a tackle before thinking about man-to-man coverage and looking to intercept/knock the ball down.

And, we have been told jumping helps to deflect passes but has anybody noticed an increase in deflect passes with a high jumping skill from the safety position? I can buy it a little more from the CB spot, but they are in coverage 99% of the time compared to safeties.

My main safety has averaged ~16 deflected passes a year and she has minimal jumping skill. (~25) There would be little difference if I soft capped jumping to how many passes she would deflect. Maybe get 1-4 more a year at the cost of ~25 skill points... not worth it.

i believe you should softcap confidence. Call me crazy but I think Confidence pays huge dividends.