Warrior General Games

Str: 57
Tac: 38
Spd: 75
Agi: 77
Jmp: 19
Sta: 44
Vis: 35
Con: 30 (in training)

SA's:

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This player had 11 sacks and 10 hurries last season, but the vast majority of that was against lowbie/gutted teams... Not good. Against same-level OTs, or even ones a few levels lower, I was completely nullified.

Advice?

is that with or without equipment? how is your equipment split?

Originally posted by therunner24
is that with or without equipment? how is your equipment split?

It's with equipment. He has +8 agi/+14 speed.

However, I do not have level 32 equipment yet so there's some potential to improve a few points without leveling.

that means speed and agility is at 61. i would push both to 68. pick one, put all skill points there first, then do the second.

intense train vison and conf

Think I'm on the right track though? Any reason I'm so invisible most of the time?

Probably use VAs for Quick?

Originally posted by fallingmercury
Think I'm on the right track though? Any reason I'm so invisible most of the time?

it takes time with elite DE builds as you speed / agility are not high enough yet. i think the vision also slows you down. i have a guy who played most the year as a level 23-24 in an uncapped and he also got hammered despite better speed and close on agility. the vision whammy hit him right before 2-3 games against even leveled guys and he simply got smoked.

Hmm, not certain I'd blame vision for that. If vision slowed DEs down, it would be a huge attribute for them. There are 80-sack guys running around with less vision than me as well......

jumping, turned lots of hurries into sacks for me.
Diving tackles also happens a lot more

Originally posted by iMan
jumping, turned lots of hurries into sacks for me.
Diving tackles also happens a lot more

Are you sure it wasn't because you almost always played against lower level competition? And plenty of gutted, weakling BBB teams?

Originally posted by fallingmercury
Hmm, not certain I'd blame vision for that. If vision slowed DEs down, it would be a huge attribute for them. There are 80-sack guys running around with less vision than me as well......

There are no legitmiate 80-sack guys who have vision less than 36... Vision is key to a faster start at the snap. Ask anyone around here. It's considered better to soft cap vision before SA's when building a new player.

Yeah but that's more like acceleration than top speed, which I was referring to.

So would you advise I use my next few levels to soft cap vision or keep pushing forward with agility?

I would get speed to the 3rd cap with SP...
Adv train VIS/CNF...
After speed cap vision...

I would consider moving all equip to agility...77 is just not going to get it done...good DEs are in the 90-100 area at this level...great are past 100.

You could also think about taking agility through the 4-1 cap (73)

You need more speed/agility...would take them both to the next cap...also will point out that 70/90 guys aren't getting much done without SAs...they became MUCH more important after Bort's midseason nerf...If you want results now, I'd pump the SAs...if you want a better long term build speed/agility first...

Still this is all guesswork until we see how this offseasons changes affect things...

Originally posted by fallingmercury
Originally posted by iMan

jumping, turned lots of hurries into sacks for me.
Diving tackles also happens a lot more

Are you sure it wasn't because you almost always played against lower level competition? And plenty of gutted, weakling BBB teams?

no i played in a South America AA 3 League that had an OT level average of 34 when i was a level 29
the team got sold.