Warrior General Games

So, what are everyone's thoughts on the HB vet abilities?

Elusive:
Quick Feet - +2% to Head Fake/Juke success rate
Slippery - +2% to breaking tackles when using at least 50% elusive style

Power:
Bruiser - +3% to breaking tackles when using at least 50% power style
Goal Line Back - +1% to str/agi/car on plays inside the 5 yard line for HB/FB

Anyone:
Quick - +1% to agility
Track Star - +1% to speed
Workout Warrior - +1% to strength
Clutch - 5% chance to trigger various bonuses towards making plays on both offense and defense in 3rd and 4th down situations, especially late in the game
Mr. Reliable - +4% bonus to avoiding fumbles and +1% to catching on 3rd/4th down
Mr. First Down - 3% chance of being awarded an extra 1/2 yard if it would result in a first down
Red Zone Freak - a +5% chance to gain a 5% bonus to all attributes when inside the 20 yard line
Short Yardage Monster - +2% bonus to breaking tackles when behind the line of scrimmage
Scat Back - +2% bonus to catching short passes as HB/FB
Tenacious - +2% bonus to fight out extra yards when tackler is using Wrap Up style

bruiser is 3% to breaking tackles.


i think that bruiser/slippery are going to be the bread and butter for alot of people, and that alot of former "combo" backs that are actually elusive will use slippery and run 50% elusive.

the +1% to agility/speed/strength are nice as cheap base modifiers, but i don't think that +1% to strength would be as much to breaking tackles as adding to something that gaive +% to actually break the tackles.

Fixed.

Can you use Brusier and Slippery at the same time?

When the scale bar is in the middle for balanced, you are using neither style more then the other.

So am I right in my logic in thinking that you have to put the bar to the right 50 to at least get use out of Slippery and to the left -50 to at least get use out of Brusier?

This kinda sucks for combo backs as it would of been nice to keep it in the middle and gain the effects of both.

Theory so far (not confirmed yet) is 50% in elusive means +50 on the slider (not 0, which is the middle) just as 50% power is -50. In short, no, general consensus is that you cannot use both at once. Your logic is probably right.

i am using clutch for my combo back

The key to the words is 50% Power/Elusive running style. not 50% running style.

50% power running style is -50, and 50% elusive running style is +50. if you run on combo, thats 0. thats 0% power running and 0% elusive running.

Originally posted by rmiller517
The key to the words is 50% Power/Elusive running style. not 50% running style.

50% power running style is -50, and 50% elusive running style is +50. if you run on combo, thats 0. thats 0% power running and 0% elusive running.


yup doesnt help combo

I think that a common VA combo is going to be Clutch and Bruiser/Slippery. Tenacious could also be useful since a large majority of defenders use Wrap-Up tackling.

Tenacions & Bruiser could spell doom for a lot of defenses.

Originally posted by boomer82
Tenacions & Bruiser could spell doom for a lot of defenses.

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Mr. First Down looks terrible, honestly. It is extremely situational and chancy.

Originally posted by rmiller517
The key to the words is 50% Power/Elusive running style. not 50% running style.

50% power running style is -50, and 50% elusive running style is +50. if you run on combo, thats 0. thats 0% power running and 0% elusive running.


I don't know about that ...or maybe I am misunderstanding what you are trying to say.

Bruiser - +3% to breaking tackles when using at least 50% power style

Key word is " at least 50%", which infers you can go higher than 50%. So if the slider bar is set right in the middle , that would be 50% power/50% elusive. A little to one side would equal 60%power/40% elusive ...or whatever.

1...........................................2.....................................3

Where 1 would equal 100% elusive/0% power
Where 3 would equal 100% power/0% elusive
Where 2 would equal 50% power/50% elusive

Originally posted by carumba10
Originally posted by rmiller517

The key to the words is 50% Power/Elusive running style. not 50% running style.

50% power running style is -50, and 50% elusive running style is +50. if you run on combo, thats 0. thats 0% power running and 0% elusive running.


I don't know about that ...or maybe I am misunderstanding what you are trying to say.

Bruiser - +3% to breaking tackles when using at least 50% power style

Key word is " at least 50%", which infers you can go higher than 50%. So if the slider bar is set right in the middle , that would be 50% power/50% elusive. A little to one side would equal 60%power/40% elusive ...or whatever.

1...........................................2.....................................3

Where 1 would equal 100% elusive/0% power
Where 3 would equal 100% power/0% elusive
Where 2 would equal 50% power/50% elusive





Wrong

Each side has their own individual 1-100 meter. You can't have both abilities working at the same time.

Mr First down = Dive for yardage?