Warrior General Games

Is carrying an important stat for WR's? I thought it helps you break tackles, yet I have not seen anyone say that it is a skill a WR should focus on. Should I not train or put points into this?

It is low priority though presumably helpful. Bort did state it helps holding on to a catch, I believe.

ok thanks. I have a LVL 21 and i trained carry up to 31 and i was hoping i wasn't wasting time on a stat that won't make a difference.

It is a minor skill meaning, Agility, Speed, Catching, Jumping, Stamina, and Vision are all more important than it.

31 carrying at lvl 21?

stop training it...you should be focusing on the important attributes...carrying should be one of the last attributes to train on a WR.

Carrying is important for WR if you are well covered. Many drops are the result of low carrying when hit by a DB/LB. 31 at 21 is extremely high. However, by level 32 it should be 30+.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Carrying is important for WR if you are well covered AND YOU HAVE SOFT CAPPED AGILITY, SPEED, CATCHING, VISION, JUMPING AND STAMINA

Fixed. Odds are if you are well covered it is because you don't have enough of the above listed attributes. Take the main ones, that is a proactive solution rather than carrying which is a reactive solution.

Originally posted by Mob-6
Originally posted by Rage Kinard

Carrying is important for WR if you are well covered AND YOU HAVE SOFT CAPPED AGILITY, SPEED, CATCHING, VISION, JUMPING AND STAMINA

Fixed. Odds are if you are well covered it is because you don't have enough of the above listed attributes. Take the main ones, that is a proactive solution rather than carrying which is a reactive solution.


Says the person with WR who had 72 catches and 32 drops and had his stats inflated by singleback WR screen plays.

Jealous much? I can see how you would be considering I had half the catches and the same production as you despite me being significantly lower in level and being the number 2 option on my team as opposed to you being the #1 WR on yours.

Again, no need to hate on me because my WR has been one of the most explosive WRs every season despite going up against competition much higher than me. I'm sure someday when you can get your playoff YAC over a yard and average more than 10 yards a catch, you might be able to pass for an explosive WR and actually make it out of the 1st round of the play-offs.

Actually, that WR screen hurt my stats and didn't inflate it. If you go back and look at the past 3 seasons, I average significantly more yards per catch and YAC and TDs on other plays. Running that screen killed my averages this year, but I guess you wouldn't understand since you ignorant scrub WRs don't research before opening your pieholes. Hey, if it such a good play, you might want to run that on your team, and maybe you could have some averages that are actually good rather than catching a lot of balls that don't help your team win.

Whatever. My WR was on a team that was realing after owner went inactive for a while and lost 1/4 of the team. Then convinced everyone else he was inactive because he had a cpu virus and he was back. Now he's inactive again.

Team only had 3 WR for 1/2 the season and my WR had to play in #1 spot rather than #3 spot he was built for. Still managed 140 catches and only 12 drops. I'm also sure those 36 TDs didn't help the team at all.


Besides the whole point of this is how much carrying helps you from dropping passes.

140 catches/12 drops vs. 72 catches/32 drops

Also, look at how your WR did compared to the top WRs in your conference vs. how mine did compared to top WRs in his conference.

Well I have a level 41 WR and have never touched carrying. 8 drops/86 catches. I would say I am sure it helps but there is way better things to put points and train if you are level 21. I will probably actually start training carrying this upcoming season, but only because most everything else is too high to get the nice training boost.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Whatever. My WR was on a team that was realing after owner went inactive for a while and lost 1/4 of the team. Then convinced everyone else he was inactive because he had a cpu virus and he was back. Now he's inactive again.

Team only had 3 WR for 1/2 the season and my WR had to play in #1 spot rather than #3 spot he was built for. Still managed 140 catches and only 12 drops. I'm also sure those 36 TDs didn't help the team at all.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here. My WR has big play success in whichever slot he is put in, he doesn't need to be matched up against the worst CB to have success as you claim yours is built for.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard

Besides the whole point of this is how much carrying helps you from dropping passes.

140 catches/12 drops vs. 72 catches/32 drops

So if carrying is the point of the discussion, why do you feel it necessary to takes shots at my WR? Again, it seems you have an inferiority complex when it comes to your WR and his small average, I'm sure he will grow up eventually and have a larger YPC, in the mean time you can tell your self length doesn't matter, it's how your WR is used.

Last time I checked your team doesn't get points for drop ratio, only TDs matter and my Catch to TD ratio is significantly better than yours, and if we count those 30 drops as catches, the ratio is still better than yours, LMAO. You insinuate that my drop ratio might be related to carrying by putting the catch to drop ratio up, I can assure you carrying has nothing to do with it.



Originally posted by Rage Kinard

Also, look at how your WR did compared to the top WRs in your conference vs. how mine did compared to top WRs in his conference.

Sure you were 8th in your League in receiving yards, I was 9th (with about 30 less catches than everyone else in my leagues top 10, talk about explosive efficiency!) We were both top 10 for TDs in our leagues, but my team actually WON games and only one team kept me out of the end zone during the season, while you got goose egged 4 times(at least your consistent about it).

Originally posted by Mob-6


Sure you were 8th in your League in receiving yards, I was 9th (with about 30 less catches than everyone else in my leagues top 10, talk about explosive efficiency!) We were both top 10 for TDs in our leagues, but my team actually WON games and only one team kept me out of the end zone during the season, while you got goose egged 4 times(at least your consistent about it).

Your WR finished 7th in his conference in receiving yards and had 1/2 of what the leader had which was 4103.

My WR was 5th in his conference with 2015 receiving yards and was less than 350 yards behind the leader who had 2365.

the top 2 WR in your conference in TD were 56 and 44 while yours had 29.

The top WR in my conference had 38 TD while mine had 36.


My WR clearly did better compared to the top WRs in his conference.

Your WR caught 72 balls on 690 attempts by your QB. Mine caught 140 of 774 attempts.


Your team was clearly going up against worse pass defenses than mine was and was on a better team compared to the competition you were going up against. How many times was your WR blanked in scrimmages?


Originally posted by Mob-6

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here. My WR has big play success in whichever slot he is put in, he doesn't need to be matched up against the worst CB to have success as you claim yours is built for.

My WR had success in a position he was not built for. It has nothing to do with going up against the worst CBs. Good teams usually have at least 4 CBs that are virtually equal. My WR was made for running routes that require cuts and take advantage of the low agility that CBs in GLB have. In the WR 1 spot, he often was running straight up the field.



Also, I wouldn't have done any of this if you had simply stated your opinion on the subject without trying to dis-credit mine.

There are different types of WRs and different ways to build them. You built a speed WR. I built a possession WR. The better GLB teams have both. For possession WRs who are built to catch balls across the middle, carrying is important.

I'm going to skip the cat fight and answer the OP. Carrying is a minor stat for a WR. It's main attribute is to keep control of the ball when you have possession so this translates into not fumbling and not having it knocked out after a catch. Currently, WRs do not fumble hardly at all. This may change or maybe most CBs will need to invest in skills to make this happen. Having it knocked out doesn't happen too often so this is why many people choose to not invest in it. I am training it.

Also, carrying will help break tackles, but you have to have it at least 40+ before this even become noteworthy in my experience.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard


Also, I wouldn't have done any of this if you had simply stated your opinion on the subject without trying to dis-credit mine.



And I thought it all was because your feelings still hurt that my YAC is almost equal to your YPC? Telling a guy who can't get separation to train carrying was as productive as telling him to train blocking, it isn't going to help him get separation.


I find you touting your WR who has mediocre averages and needed 140 catches to get to a base level of production kind of like a kid saying how proud he was to win his medal in the Special Olympics. I'm sure in your own world, it's a great accomplishment, but people on the outside looking in are wondering why this kid is so excited about getting a medal for being a tard.