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Is it or does it just slow em down like before?

Does it help on slams, off tackles or sweeps?

Elusive running is what sucks not vision.

Originally posted by Dirty Mo Posse
Originally posted by skel1977

Elusive running is what sucks not vision.



+1

PS: omg! another LT wearing a Santa hat

Bort said in season 4 that vision was busted... I haven't heard anything to say that it has been fixed. He never mentioned elusive running and I always run power and I've had issues with it.

Do we have an answer?

I only ask, because I've been purposely keeping vision low over the last 2 seasons and I'd love to know for sure.

I know Bort has mentioned a change to elusive running since then, which was the only thing that was making vision bad for HBs. Both of my HBs have pretty high vision, and they're pretty successful, and never stutter. I think you'll be fine if you just don't run on elusive.

And the way I see it about vision is that it's pretty much just reaction time for every position. The higher vision you have, the faster you'll make your move whether that is going in for a tackle for a LB, making a pass for a QB, juking for a HB, etc.

As far as RBs are concerned, the decision is based on the run style you pick. Elusive does a check/decision at 3 game ticks, combo does one at 5 and power does one at 7. So your power pack sticks to his initial decision longer, regardless of where defensive players move to. Vision just gives him more info to use in making a decision.

Originally posted by taz20075
As far as RBs are concerned, the decision is based on the run style you pick. Elusive does a check/decision at 3 game ticks, combo does one at 5 and power does one at 7. So your power pack sticks to his initial decision longer, regardless of where defensive players move to. Vision just gives him more info to use in making a decision.

Link? Or just guesses?

Originally posted by pantherz77
Originally posted by taz20075

As far as RBs are concerned, the decision is based on the run style you pick. Elusive does a check/decision at 3 game ticks, combo does one at 5 and power does one at 7. So your power pack sticks to his initial decision longer, regardless of where defensive players move to. Vision just gives him more info to use in making a decision.

Link? Or just guesses?

I read it here somewhere... If the forum search worked....


I'm not smart enough to come up with that on my own.

Think of it like this: Reggie Bush of the NFL runs on combo, he tries to get away from tacklers, but if nothing is there then he puts his head down and tries to fall forward. Reggie Bush of USC ran on elusive, he tried to get away from tacklers, but if nothing was there he would run backwards and across the field trying to get away.

Conclusion: Run on combo.

what's the minimum strength you need to run on combo or does it matter, i've been building my elusive RB by staying away from strength totally

There's not really a minimum. You miiiiight fumble a little more often, but Elusive running sucks. Switch to combo.

I dunno, I was still skeptical of elusive running, but from game 15 this season, I switched from combo to elusive, playing against similar level teams, and the results have been pretty good.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=794249

I run on elusive with softcapped vision and have never run into the stuttering or indecision problem behind the LOS. I've seen him wait maybe like one second and cut one direction behind the line, but thats it.