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Redfish2010
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I know that first step and quick cut are good...

but how about head fake, spin, and juke?

are they a waste to put into? im really having problems with yac. can't seem to break any tackles.

how about elusive? is it really a bad idea?


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if head fake, spin, and juke are actually worth it, where should my speed/agility be for this?
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JD Cuda
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I'm not sure about head fake, spin, and juke.

Elusive is good. I'm on it.
 
PackMan97
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I would get your speed to 90+ and your agility to ~70 with a healthy quick cut before you worried about the last three SA's.
 
Redfish2010
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ooooooooooo. theres my problem
 
arcbee007
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Originally posted by PackMan97
I would get your speed to 90+ and your agility to ~70 with a healthy quick cut before you worried about the last three SA's.


Then be the judge of my players performance PackMan. I'm a WR and PR.

Speedster Chart
FS- 10, QC- 7, HF- 5, Sp- 7, Ju- 5

 
bossinthe831
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Originally posted by arcbee007
Originally posted by PackMan97

I would get your speed to 90+ and your agility to ~70 with a healthy quick cut before you worried about the last three SA's.


Then be the judge of my players performance PackMan. I'm a WR and PR.

Speedster Chart
FS- 10, QC- 7, HF- 5, Sp- 7, Ju- 5



33.4 Yards Per Game, 4 TD's.

No Punt OR Kick Return TD's. I would say your a good example of investing too much in SA's.
 
Mob-6
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^ That isn't the type of results I would hope for with those investments in SAs. How much speed and agility DO you have?
 
drakeborn
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Originally posted by bossinthe831
No Punt OR Kick Return TD's. I would say your a good example of investing too much in SA's.


Not that I am defending his build, but he has 6 PR TDs this year...one out of every 12 punts returned went for six points.
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PackMan97
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Originally posted by drakeborn
Originally posted by bossinthe831

No Punt OR Kick Return TD's. I would say your a good example of investing too much in SA's.


Not that I am defending his build, but he has 6 PR TDs this year...one out of every 12 punts returned went for six points.


4 PR's came in a 207-3 W, the other two came in 140-0 and 146-0 wins. At some point competition matters. So, he can perform against gutted teams, and that's it.
 
arcbee007
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Originally posted by Mob-6
^ That isn't the type of results I would hope for with those investments in SAs. How much speed and agility DO you have?


Speed 80 and Ahility 62. I'll be pumping both in hope to improve Julien. He actually finally hitting his stride in my opinion.

PR Yds Avg TD
74 1,896.5 25.6 6

He'll be better next year as Agility will probably be at 70 hopefully while Speed at 85 and Quick Cut Max out. Plus I have advance Equipment on Juke so that should be hitting 6 mid-season.
 
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Originally posted by arcbee007
Originally posted by Mob-6

^ That isn't the type of results I would hope for with those investments in SAs. How much speed and agility DO you have?


Speed 80 and Ahility 62. I'll be pumping both in hope to improve Julien. He actually finally hitting his stride in my opinion.

PR Yds Avg TD
74 1,896.5 25.6 6

He'll be better next year as Agility will probably be at 70 hopefully while Speed at 85 and Quick Cut Max out. Plus I have advance Equipment on Juke so that should be hitting 6 mid-season.


Very slow and not agile for a level 38 WR...
 
Mob-6
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Originally posted by arcbee007
Originally posted by Mob-6

^ That isn't the type of results I would hope for with those investments in SAs. How much speed and agility DO you have?


Speed 80 and Ahility 62. I'll be pumping both in hope to improve Julien. He actually finally hitting his stride in my opinion.

PR Yds Avg TD
74 1,896.5 25.6 6

He'll be better next year as Agility will probably be at 70 hopefully while Speed at 85 and Quick Cut Max out. Plus I have advance Equipment on Juke so that should be hitting 6 mid-season.


I have no problem with investing heavily in the SAs, I just don't see enough return from them right now in terms of explosiveness on your build. Do you notice Spin or Juke triggering at all when you watch replays? I'd suggest getting your speed up to the 90s and agility to 70ish and see if that makes a difference for the SA triggering. I'd like to add Spin/Juke in the future for my build, but I want to see some justifiable results for adding them.
 
arcbee007
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Originally posted by Mob-6
Originally posted by arcbee007

Originally posted by Mob-6


^ That isn't the type of results I would hope for with those investments in SAs. How much speed and agility DO you have?


Speed 80 and Ahility 62. I'll be pumping both in hope to improve Julien. He actually finally hitting his stride in my opinion.

PR Yds Avg TD
74 1,896.5 25.6 6

He'll be better next year as Agility will probably be at 70 hopefully while Speed at 85 and Quick Cut Max out. Plus I have advance Equipment on Juke so that should be hitting 6 mid-season.


I have no problem with investing heavily in the SAs, I just don't see enough return from them right now in terms of explosiveness on your build. Do you notice Spin or Juke triggering at all when you watch replays? I'd suggest getting your speed up to the 90s and agility to 70ish and see if that makes a difference for the SA triggering. I'd like to add Spin/Juke in the future for my build, but I want to see some justifiable results for adding them.



Ya that my long term goal with my player but I'm thinking a little differently, in what Speed and AGility will be. I'm thinking mabye 85-90 speed and agility 75-80.
 
Mob-6
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Do you notice Spin or Juke triggering at all when you watch replays?
 
arcbee007
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Originally posted by Mob-6
Do you notice Spin or Juke triggering at all when you watch replays?


At times, like I've seen a few plays in which my player when through another player while Juke require a bit more agility to see to results. As for the other 3 Speedster SA they trigger quite often I say.

But Mob-6 can you explain your desription of a Juke or Spin on the GLB replay, because even I can really say what a Spin look like.
 
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