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What is the order of capping? 2nd speed and agility then 1st catching and carrying?

I built my HB as elusive, which works excellent when playing backup to a powerback. Though as I've soft-capped speed and agility first, I've worked on vision which is also capped. Carrying is almost capped. Have been training catching which I'll start leveling soon as well. Dual threat is really time consuming because there's so many stats you have to do, because you're combining HB and WR. Strength I haven't focused on, given the elusive build.

Eventually when I get everything I need capped, then I'll start second-capping speed and agility. Currently second on team for receptions and receiving yards. You could try second-capping speed/agility while still low in level since you level up so much faster then before going dual threat. I'd say build as HB first, since that's the position you're playing and your team may not use you as a receiver. It's a transitional build.

Yeah I was figuring that but then again how many teams actually use a Hb as a receiving threat? I am just trying out something new. I think it would be more versatile to have a dual threat being you could be backup HB and and play 3-4 slot WR and possibly KR of course you would be really low on Stamina

if you mean dual threat like recieving and rushing, kinda brian westbrook.i would work on first capping speed and agility, then while working on speed to the next cap you can train vision and confidence. slowly bringing up your speed more while the two you are training get high. next i cap vision, then train stregth and carrying, takes a bit but can be rewarding.i retired my other two backs and kept this model so to speak. the trick is having your offensive coordinator use him correctly. on my team i am set as the number two option. for the reason i will only be in on plays i am running or thrown at. so i dont have to boost stamina to early. also they use the screen and short hb passes to him while having him work more outside. while the main back, the power back. does the up the middle runs and through tackles and blocks.

Hi.

I have 2 backs w/ well over 1,000 yards receiving this year. One of them leads his entire league in receiving yards and has 1844 yards receiving thus far.

To be a dual threat RB, you need speed, speed, and more speed. Then agility. Then stamina/catching/vision/carry. You will want to 3 or 4 cap speed before even looking at anything else, and you will want to stack all equipment on speed. The key is to be significantly faster than the LBs that will be covering you. Throw in a good ammount of headfake, and you will simply destroy teams as a pass catching back.

You don't NEED speed to be a dual threat. You could be a powerback and a possesion receiver which both need no where near incredible speed. Sure but without catching you don't catch anything. Which is the point of a dual threat!

Originally posted by Iceburg
You don't NEED speed to be a dual threat. You could be a powerback and a possesion receiver which both need no where near incredible speed. Sure but without catching you don't catch anything. Which is the point of a dual threat!


I guess. Lets just put it this way. Speed has been shown to be highly effective for a pass catching RB. My 83 receptions for 1,844 yards and 22 TDs are proof of that. LBs have a very tough time covering a very fast HB catching out of the backfield. I can't comment on pass catching power backs since I don't have one.

I mean I know speed is good to an extent but 100 speed and 15 catching will not do any better then a 100 catching 15 speed guy. I mean both will do good in certain areas but the point of a dual threat back is to be able to run the ball and if that doesnt work go out into the flats or be able to go out for a flag or post route.

Originally posted by Iceburg
I mean I know speed is good to an extent but 100 speed and 15 catching will not do any better then a 100 catching 15 speed guy. I mean both will do good in certain areas but the point of a dual threat back is to be able to run the ball and if that doesnt work go out into the flats or be able to go out for a flag or post route.


I couldn't disagree more. A 100 catching 15 speed guy will never get open.

A dual threat HB does need high speed. I'm not comparing GLB to the NFL, but notice how the top dual threats in the NFL tend to be fast, such as Reggie Bush or previously Marshall Faulk.

My HB is used as a dual threat HB and if he didn't have high speed he wouldn't be able to repeatedly make plays like these:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=250637&pbp_id=4977936
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=250642&pbp_id=8170147
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=250639&pbp_id=6258238
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=250641&pbp_id=7523706
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=250637&pbp_id=4978929
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=250636&pbp_id=4326629

(Playing at WR):
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=250881&pbp_id=1735523

Also, check out DMP , I'm quite sure he has high speed:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=47042

I know but if you use a HB at WR with less then say 25 catching especially with position penalties he cannot be too good. But a possesion receiver does not need a lot of speed just to get open

But a dual threat HB is not gonna be running the same routes as a possesion WR. An HB is gonna be rushing more than receiving so you should focus more on the attributes for rushing.

My HB has only had 1 drop so far this season with only 30 catching. He has 18 catches, 29.7 ypc and 9 TDs.

Originally posted by Iceburg
I know but if you use a HB at WR with less then say 25 catching especially with position penalties he cannot be too good. But a possesion receiver does not need a lot of speed just to get open

possession guys need speed to get open. You arent going to get open with just route run and catching.

Well it matters how you use him. If you get a dual threat HB just so you can double him as WR and Hb then of course not but if you get him to catch out of the backfield then it is on a different dimension

I don't think anyone is saying a pass catching possession type back would definitely fail.

What we are saying is speed definitely works. We haven't seen an example of a pass catching possesion type back, so we don't know if it would be effective or not.

If you believe it will, build one. I'd be interested to see how it turned out.

Never forget, there is more than 1 way to skin a cat in GBL. I was just sharing what has worked for me.