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Wren57
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LVL23. Decent build?

Strength: 21.75
Blocking: 14.3
Speed: 74.11
Tackling: 9
Agility: 71.11
Throwing: 14.3
Jumping: 14.3
Catching: 25.52
Stamina: 19.57
Carrying: 30.27
Vision: 42.93
Kicking: 8
Confidence: 18.11
Punting: 8

Stamina issue? Maybe carrying?

I think I'm going to soft cap carrying, then strength, then work on the SAs. Will be normal training stamina to 35.

Thoughts?

 
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i got 32 stamian right now and ppl r saying i dont need to add anymore for that
 
floods
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You're correct, you need a whole lot more stamina unless you're splitting time with 4-5 other HB's. If energy is representative of the percent drain to attributes and you're at, say, 50 energy during a game, your speed and agility would be around 35. But that's just a theory.
 
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I haven't noticed any problem having 30ish stamina and sharing my carries with the other HB on our team.
My speed seems to stay the same throughout the entire game.
 
LarryB
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Yeah, I'd add stamina. Also, your vision is a bit low if you're running on elusive. You'll get some "decision lag"
 
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low confidence will make a RB seem slow, I'd def train sta/cnf, and use points to cap vision.
 
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my running back has 40 stamina 40 confidence and still fumbles quite a bit
 
skel1977
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How fast do you want to be? 74 speed isn't that fast IMO although it is pretty fast for your level. But I mean you arent going to be flash gordon on the replay screen.

Once you put points into quick cut your guy will look a lot better as far as fluidity(is that a word)
Last edited Nov 25, 2008 19:06:02
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by Darren McFadden
low confidence will make a RB seem slow, I'd def train sta/cnf, and use points to cap vision.


FALSE.

Quit spreading misinformation.
 
LarryB
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by Darren McFadden

low confidence will make a RB seem slow, I'd def train sta/cnf, and use points to cap vision.


FALSE.

Quit spreading misinformation.


Actually, you're wrong here Bukowski. Check my other eloquent response post going over why you're wrong and why you need to quit spreading misinformation.
 
taurran
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Elusive SA's such as QC and FS make a BIG difference in how "fast" your HB moves. I've got a lower level HB with higher base attributes than my higher level HB with SA's, and he just moves a lot slower.
 
Bukowski
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Originally posted by LarryB
Originally posted by Bukowski

Originally posted by Darren McFadden


low confidence will make a RB seem slow, I'd def train sta/cnf, and use points to cap vision.


FALSE.

Quit spreading misinformation.


Actually, you're wrong here Bukowski. Check my other eloquent response post going over why you're wrong and why you need to quit spreading misinformation.


No. You're wrong.

What the fuck do you know about what makes a RB successful?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=137406

Your RB has NEVER averaged over 6 YPC.

But I bet he has high confidence, right?

Learn how to build your own RB, then maybe you can come in here and pretend like you have a fucking clue.
Last edited Nov 26, 2008 11:25:01
 
LarryB
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by LarryB

Originally posted by Bukowski


Originally posted by Darren McFadden



low confidence will make a RB seem slow, I'd def train sta/cnf, and use points to cap vision.


FALSE.

Quit spreading misinformation.


Actually, you're wrong here Bukowski. Check my other eloquent response post going over why you're wrong and why you need to quit spreading misinformation.


No. You're wrong.

What the fuck do you know about what makes a RB successful?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=137406

Your RB has NEVER averaged over 6 YPC.

But I bet he has high confidence, right?

Learn how to build your own RB, then maybe you can come in here and pretend like you have a fucking clue.


Hey, here's the thing big guy. I've let my first RB's build be dictated by my OCs, who needed a RB to serve their needs. Unfortunately for me, both teams have been pass first. So, my build focus has changed so many times I'm essentially cutting my losses with the first RB. Personal experience has never stopped someone from being able to give quality advice. When was the last time a star calibar football player went on to be a great coach? VERY rare. Most coaches were back-ups, and a few NEVER PLAYED PRO FOOTBAL!! Imagine that. I wonder how that affects their ability to coach?

The knowledge to give advice and the ability to put your own advice to use are two very separate things, and there is no better way to know what not to do than to fail. This is a problem that has caused idiots like you to discredit of some very good theories and practices in psychology and other areas. Just because I've "failed" with my first RB made in the last weeks of SEASON 1, when elusive was good, power didn't exist, and everyone thought you needed 41 stamina at level 20, doesn't mean I don't know how to make a quality character. I would think I'm doing something right whether in building or planning to earn a spot on a team in USA AA that is winning against AAA and Pro level competition with a legitimate shot at moving up for the second season in a row.

I started off as a low speed Power back, which failed (2.9 ypc) because speed won games and runblocking was broken. I changed him to speed, they fixed tackle breaking and run blocking, and his already high strength causes a large increase in breaks and ypc. I went back to strength. They made Agility more important, I had to get that to 55. Every season his ypc has gone up. And I think it's funny you use 6 as the bench mark for a running back. All I've ever heard is 4.

But you know, maybe you're right, I guess I need to live up to your standards before I can possibly understand anything about confidence and this game.

Oh wait. No. You're wrong. I don't need shit from you to validate my opinion. It is my opinion sprinkled with facts about things Bort has said regarding confidence. So have a big helping of go Fuck yourself and try using facts to debunk a theory rather than personal attacks.

Last edited Nov 26, 2008 11:46:35
 
Bukowski
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Let's see how many excuses Larry B can come up with, for the reasoning behind his terrible RB:

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Originally posted by LarryB

I've let my first RB's build be dictated by my OCs, who needed a RB to serve their needs.

2.
Originally posted by LarryB
Unfortunately for me, both teams have been pass first.

3.
Originally posted by LarryB
So, my build focus has changed so many times I'm essentially cutting my losses with the first RB.

4.
Originally posted by LarryB
Just because I've "failed" with my first RB made in the last weeks of SEASON 1, when elusive was good, power didn't exist, and everyone thought you needed 41 stamina at level 20, doesn't mean I don't know how to make a quality character.

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Originally posted by LarryB
I started off as a low speed Power back, which failed (2.9 ypc) because speed won games and runblocking was broken.

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Originally posted by LarryB
I changed him to speed, they fixed tackle breaking and run blocking, and his already high strength causes a large increase in breaks and ypc.

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Originally posted by LarryB
I went back to strength.

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Originally posted by LarryB
They made Agility more important, I had to get that to 55.

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Originally posted by LarryB
Every season his ypc has gone up.

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Originally posted by LarryB
And I think it's funny you use 6 as the bench mark for a running back. All I've ever heard is 4.



Wow.. Those are some great excuses Larry B, they really are.

Now we all understand. It's perfectly understandable on why your RB is so awful..

Thanks for clearing that up.

But I'm just curious though.. If Confidence is really so important, wouldn't his high Confidence attribute, completely make up for all 10 of those reasons, that your RB stinks?

Just curious, you know. Maybe you can help me out with that.
Last edited Nov 26, 2008 12:04:57
 
LarryB
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Also, you're dumb Bukowski. Did you bother to research your attack on me before you spouted ignorance? My level 11 HB, with 25 unspent SP, has the stat line that follows:


Season 6
G 7
Rush 122
Yds 855.5
Y/G 122.2
Y/Rush 7
TD 11
BrTk 30
TkdFL 0

If that is difficult for you to read and understand, it says You're Wrong about me not have an RB with more than 7 ypc.

See what I did there? I made a personal attack, and then provided evidence to support my attack.

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