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Dachpappe
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I have set up the QB Kneel with less than 76 seconds left in the 4th quarter...while my team leads with 1 or more points. This setting does not regard opponents number of timeouts left.

What would you recommend, if opponent has 2 or only 1 TO left?
 
fresh_tacos
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Assuming a 40 second play clock; Set up three inputs, one for when the opponent has 1 T.O., two T.O.s, etc. If your opponent has 3 T.O. left, you wouldnt want to kneel at all, with 2 T.O.s left you can safely kneel with 39 or fewer seconds left, etc.
 
Dachpappe
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So something like this?

For all Inputs: Score Difference Between 1 and 300

Input 1:
Down Between 1 and 3
Opponent Timeouts Left 2
Time Remaining in quarter less than 39 seconds

Input 2:
Down Between 1 and 3
Opponent Timeouts Left 1
Time Remaining in quarter less than 79 seconds

Input 3:
Down Between 1 and 3
Opponent Timeouts Left 0
Time Remaining in quarter less than 119 seconds


Output for all Inputs:
QB Kneel
 
fresh_tacos
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Thats my thought, yeah.
 
Dachpappe
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Originally posted by fresh_tacos
Thats my thought, yeah.


Thanks!
 
Dachpappe
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Hm...any replays for kneels? Do you lose yardage? If so how much? I wouldnt want to start kneeling down on 1st and 10 at my own 3 if I lose 2 yards each kneel...
 
Dachpappe
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You lose about 1 yard http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1407960

So one shouldnt kneel three times in a row with the first at the own 3...
 
Welsh76
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Originally posted by Dachpappe
So something like this?

For all Inputs: Score Difference Between 1 and 300

Input 1:
Down Between 1 and 3
Opponent Timeouts Left 2
Time Remaining in quarter less than 39 seconds

Input 2:
Down Between 1 and 3
Opponent Timeouts Left 1
Time Remaining in quarter less than 79 seconds

Input 3:
Down Between 1 and 3
Opponent Timeouts Left 0
Time Remaining in quarter less than 119 seconds


Output for all Inputs:
QB Kneel


Input 1 wouldn't work, if you're on a 3rd down you shouldn't be doing a QB kneel because your opposition will call a timeout and you're going to punt the ball back to them. Under 40 seconds you only want to kneel if they don't have any timeouts left or if you have two more downs than they have timeouts.

Similar thing with input 2 & 3, you're basically giving the ball back without attempting to get the first down. You only want to do a QB kneel if it will run out the clock.

Edited to say I have 6 QB kneel inputs, 3 for 40 seconds or less, 2 for 80 seconds or less and 1 for 120 seconds or less. The time may need to be tweaked slightly because I'm not sure how much time will actually run off the clock.

Last edited Nov 11, 2008 08:24:08
 
tragula
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Originally posted by Dachpappe
You lose about 1 yard http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1407960

So one shouldnt kneel three times in a row with the first at the own 3...


They AI will not let you Kneel if your are at your own 2.
 
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I saw on the bullet notes in the OC AI that the offense will not kneel if it will cause a safety.
Last edited Nov 15, 2008 12:10:35
 
LulzDot
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Yeah it says that you can't cause a safety by kneeling. Yeah I would definitely break it down by downs and time both.

1st Down, <119 sec, 0 TO.
1st Down, <79 sec, 1 TO.
2nd Down, <79 sec, 0 TO.
1st Down, <39 sec, 2 TO.
2nd Down, <39 sec, 1 TO.
3rd Down, <39 sec, 0 TO.

I have these 6 inputs for the kneel output. Anything else runs the risk of giving the ball back to the other guy.
 


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