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Building a return specialist and wondering what everyone thinks would be the best attribute to be my 3rd softcap. Already have speed and agility of course. What's next? Vision, Carrying? How important do you think carrying is for a return spec? I'm planning on pretty much ignoring some normal second tier CB attributes like jumping and catching. So far at level 12 he has...

Strength: 12.75
Blocking: 8
Speed: 72.64
Tackling: 12.75
Agility: 49.64
Throwing: 8
Jumping: 13.64
Catching: 13.64
Stamina: 19.64
Carrying: 12.75
Vision: 16.64
Kicking: 10
Confidence: 12.75
Punting: 8

Bort stated someplace that carrying isn't just about not causing fumbles, but also about reading plays and avoiding tackles, so I think that you might want to put a few points into it eventually. Otherwise, I'd probably 2nd cap agility, and train confidence a bit.

you have already messed up. you needed to focus more on agility. like 72 agility and 49 speed would be better. you could be working on getting speed up to second cap instead of agility. keep on pumping agility till you start feeling guilty and you need to pump up other things, then pump it up some more. then work on vision. hopefully you can fix it by level 30.

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here is my purely KR/PR built CB i dont care about his CB playing ability just his kick returning ability..

i am planing on soft capping agility then what do i increase? agility to 2nd cap? vision to 1st cap? speed to 2nd cap? carrying? strength?

Originally posted by UnderDogs
you have already messed up. you needed to focus more on agility. like 72 agility and 49 speed would be better. you could be working on getting speed up to second cap instead of agility. keep on pumping agility till you start feeling guilty and you need to pump up other things, then pump it up some more. then work on vision. hopefully you can fix it by level 30.


I disagree. Speed is king for returning kicks. Obviously, you don't want to neglect agility, but I think you're placing too much emphasis on it.

Originally posted by LostPeon
Originally posted by UnderDogs

you have already messed up. you needed to focus more on agility. like 72 agility and 49 speed would be better. you could be working on getting speed up to second cap instead of agility. keep on pumping agility till you start feeling guilty and you need to pump up other things, then pump it up some more. then work on vision. hopefully you can fix it by level 30.


I disagree. Speed is king for returning kicks. Obviously, you don't want to neglect agility, but I think you're placing too much emphasis on it.

nope you get the speed later.

Originally posted by what-a-bro
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here is my purely KR/PR built CB i dont care about his CB playing ability just his kick returning ability..

i am planing on soft capping agility then what do i increase? agility to 2nd cap? vision to 1st cap? speed to 2nd cap? carrying? strength?

bring your vision up later too.

bring agility up till you have to start spending 4. get your speed up to 60 natural after that and leave it. Maybe put your custom in speed to get it to 66. try to have 90-95 agility so put all your equipment but custom there. and do nothing but put points in first step and change direction. screw specialist and screw supervision.
screw everything until you have 66 speed and 90 agility, then bring vision to 40 and leave it. and start with the two s.a's I mentioned.

do nothing but train carrying. and train str here and there. get them both to about 28 through training and maybe spend 5 in each, after you have trained them up. you could possibly do all this between levels 25-30. you will be the best returner in the league.

about vision, don't listen to those bozo's who tell you to cap it. all you need is enough for him to stop running in a straight line,and start seeing more holes. which is about 38-40

Originally posted by UnderDogs
about vision, don't listen to those bozo's who tell you to cap it. all you need is enough for him to stop running in a straight line,and start seeing more holes. which is about 38-40

Honestly, stop being so arrogant about your ways.

There's a difference in offering your opinion on how something should be done and telling everyone it's your way or the highway. I don't mind seeing other's perspectives on things and reading new ideas, but you're just being incorrigible about the return man theory you seem to have concocted.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
you have already messed up. you needed to focus more on agility. like 72 agility and 49 speed would be better. you could be working on getting speed up to second cap instead of agility. keep on pumping agility till you start feeling guilty and you need to pump up other things, then pump it up some more. then work on vision. hopefully you can fix it by level 30.


what are you talking about?

your agility should never be higher than your speed.

Originally posted by LostPeon
Originally posted by UnderDogs

about vision, don't listen to those bozo's who tell you to cap it. all you need is enough for him to stop running in a straight line,and start seeing more holes. which is about 38-40

Honestly, stop being so arrogant about your ways.

There's a difference in offering your opinion on how something should be done and telling everyone it's your way or the highway. I don't mind seeing other's perspectives on things and reading new ideas, but you're just being incorrigible about the return man theory you seem to have concocted.

who said my way or the highway. you used the phrase. I have probably never used that phrase in my life. I am actually the one trying to go a different way. everyone known to god is going to tell you to get speed up as high as possible and all that. I did this sir. It's not the way to do it.

Honestly

Originally posted by Fiesto
Originally posted by UnderDogs

you have already messed up. you needed to focus more on agility. like 72 agility and 49 speed would be better. you could be working on getting speed up to second cap instead of agility. keep on pumping agility till you start feeling guilty and you need to pump up other things, then pump it up some more. then work on vision. hopefully you can fix it by level 30.


what are you talking about?

your agility should never be higher than your speed.



100 percent wrong.

agility is better than people think for kick returns. 9 times out of ten you need the agility and vision to get past the special teams. speed is fantastic when you're playing against slow players, you just run by them, weeee bye bye. but when everyone has higher speed agility helps you slip tackles in a crowd.

I recently started building a return specialist also, I've noticed that carrying does in fact help with returns as it seems like he waits for blocks/finds holes better. I'm no expert, I'll probably boost his speed and agi from here on out while training vis/conf and seldomly str.

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