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billthekill
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With all the new offense plays, defense can no longer favor one side or the other with LB shifts and blitzing players on running downs.

Defense for the most part was set based on Offense formations. With the offense being able to any type of plays from each formations, Defense has to play honest. Basically play a boring 3-4/4-3 with balance play focus no shifting of the LB and Cover 2. What's the fun in that?


 
goshann
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Its more like the real game.
You have to set your D scheme based upon down/distance, game situation, the opposing teams playbook and tendencies.
BTW-Most of the good teams in the top leagues were already playing a base ('honest') D most of the time except in specific game situations.

 
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You will no longer be able to get by with shallow depth on the defensive side of the ball.You will need quality depth at all positions to keep pace with the offense.
 
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Defense is/has been/and always will be a guessing game if the game is running properly. You can still have your players focus run or pass, but you better be ready to deal with more severe consequences if you're wrong. I like that I'll be punished more for incorrect planning as a DC. We'll have to adapt.
 
billthekill
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I think you will see a lot of exploits now. For example your team only has 4 CB on the roster? Offense can go with a 5WR set on every single play. If an offense switches there plays from running right to then running left on a game by game basic, it IS a guessing game for the defense. No amount of scouting will help you in that regard. I predict this will turn into a game of who can find the most exploits on offense and everyone basically playing a vanilla defense unless you want to guess which side the play is comming to.
 
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Originally posted by billthekill
With all the new offense plays, defense can no longer favor one side or the other with LB shifts and blitzing players on running downs.

Defense for the most part was set based on Offense formations. With the offense being able to any type of plays from each formations, Defense has to play honest. Basically play a boring 3-4/4-3 with balance play focus no shifting of the LB and Cover 2. What's the fun in that?




welcome to football


you play that 4-3\3-4 cover two to much and you will get burn

*rolls eyes ans walks away*
 
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Originally posted by billthekill
I think you will see a lot of exploits now. For example your team only has 4 CB on the roster? Offense can go with a 5WR set on every single play. If an offense switches there plays from running right to then running left on a game by game basic, it IS a guessing game for the defense. No amount of scouting will help you in that regard. I predict this will turn into a game of who can find the most exploits on offense and everyone basically playing a vanilla defense unless you want to guess which side the play is comming to.


Lol, take your ball and go home then.

Your honestly complaining because the defense now has to worry about more things? Cause the game is only gonna get more complex as it goes, so if something like this scares you, you might as well stop playing now.
 
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yeah the defence was way too overpowered...it was like the defence got to call an audible every single play based on the offensive formation, but the offence couldn't do squat.

there are still enough things for the defence to key on when selecting scheme though to keep scores from looking like NBA.
 
billthekill
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Oh don't feel sorry for me guys. Trust me I will find many exploits on the offense. I'm just saying that the defense tatics has basically been water down to the point of being no where near as important as the offense now.


Defense definitely was overpowering but the pendilum has swung too far to the offense now. Just my prediction: you will see a lot of complaint about later on this season.


 
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I donīt think so. You can still set up a good defense that is aggressive. And when the defense gets the ability to key certain defenders to certain receivers (ie. matchup your best CB on their best WR no matter where they line him up), the scales will be perfectly even in my opinion.
 
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Originally posted by billthekill

Defense definitely was overpowering but the pendilum has swung too far to the offense now. Just my prediction: you will see a lot of complaint about later on this season.


No, it will be fine. Defense is supposed to be reactionary.
 
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Originally posted by PSUScott1
Originally posted by billthekill


Defense definitely was overpowering but the pendilum has swung too far to the offense now. Just my prediction: you will see a lot of complaint about later on this season.


No, it will be fine. Defense is supposed to be reactionary.


Yes, but the key part of reactionary is react.

You cannot react when yu have zero control of the dots during the game.

Basically, you just proved yourself wrong. The pendulum has swung too far because defenses cannot react.

 
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My prediction, we will be screaming about how defenses stink in a couple of weeks. I disagree vanilla defenses is how "top teams" have been playing. We have scored many upsets using different blitz packages, coverage schemes etc. We were able to beat teams that out-leveled us on average 2-3 levels, covering up weakness's in our D.

I embrace the new offense however. We have a solid OC so it only benefits us. Just makes my job as a DC incredibly difficult.

 
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Originally posted by BleedsOrangeAndBlue
Originally posted by PSUScott1

Originally posted by billthekill



Defense definitely was overpowering but the pendilum has swung too far to the offense now. Just my prediction: you will see a lot of complaint about later on this season.


No, it will be fine. Defense is supposed to be reactionary.


Yes, but the key part of reactionary is react.

You cannot react when yu have zero control of the dots during the game.

Basically, you just proved yourself wrong. The pendulum has swung too far because defenses cannot react.



Of course they can. We still have the advantage of getting to set up our defense knowing the formation, down and distance, time remaining, etc. The offense has the advantage of a full playbook, we have the advantage of 2nd to choose. I agree that it's going to be a lot tougher for us, but you're making a mountain out of a molehill.
 
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which is great and everything, except with the changes to where the TE lines up, we no longer have decent control over blitzes.

I would be perfectly fine if my LB depth chart had a Strong and Weak LB position vice left and right. My best odds of having a blitz go how I want it to is 50/50. If the Offense comes out in a strong I with the strong side being the defenses left, I can do a strong side on shift but can't decide to blitz the strong LB. I have to guess left or right which is stupid. You end up playing conservative or risk being wrong a lot.

I didn't make a mountain of anything. This example is my only gripe. I was just pointing out that you're wrong about it being reactive.
 
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