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crackbubba
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- A ton of new offensive plays, with at least one of each type for play in each formation. Includes new QB runs to the inside/outside, HB draws, and some screen passes to the HB

I'm really excited about this... my rushing QB will now have plays to run!
 
Nuge20
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Im also excited...I have a 42 rushing bar and a 47 passing bar and I am ready to go
 
PatsFan94
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I'm contemplating retiring my current pocket passer QB for a running QB.
 
Viscount
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I'm happy as well, my QB I've been slow building might actually be good at some point.
 
kenja
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Fattyb
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My QB is stocked 65 passing 53 speed 48 strength and 45 agility 48 vision...ready to lock and load!!!!!!finally
 
venom4789
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as fun as they maybe, i still think the pocket passer is better. we will see though. if we go off the nfl, which i know this is not. their really is no good rushing qbs. a few will have the electrify game everyonce in a while but personally i would take a brady or manning over them
 
Fattyb
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Everthing evolves and football is no different, today every or almost every high school in the nation is running some sort of spread offense and it is really getting pushed up to the college level now. Look at Michigan as an example of a normally slow power running team in a slow power running conference changing to the spread and you can see it is starting to catch on. The NFL takes a few years to catch up but you can see it at Miami with the wildcat formation, the spread is comming! It is comming just like the west coast offense did. It's only a matter of time before the Brady's and Mannings are out dated dinasoaurs, it will happen.....
 
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Originally posted by Fattyb
It's only a matter of time before the Brady's and Mannings are out dated dinasoaurs, it will happen.....


That will never happen. Pocket Passers will always be slightly better than rushing QBs.

I am excited though, because this will create a new dynamic to the game and will make it more exciting!
 
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Originally posted by Fattyb
Everthing evolves and football is no different, today every or almost every high school in the nation is running some sort of spread offense and it is really getting pushed up to the college level now. Look at Michigan as an example of a normally slow power running team in a slow power running conference changing to the spread and you can see it is starting to catch on. The NFL takes a few years to catch up but you can see it at Miami with the wildcat formation, the spread is comming! It is comming just like the west coast offense did. It's only a matter of time before the Brady's and Mannings are out dated dinasoaurs, it will happen.....




dont compare college to pro ball. period. i promise if they have a qb like manning or brady they dont run the offense they have currently and change it to let the qb destroy teams with his arm. highschool and college ball are not at the same level as pro at all. you may be able to do great things with a running QB in d league and early capped leagues but as teams get better and higher leveled, they will shut down the rushing qb and he wont be able to pass well enough. running qbs have been around in the nfl for a long time. how many more rings do they have compared to just brady and mannings themselves
 
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Originally posted by Fattyb
Everthing evolves and football is no different, today every or almost every high school in the nation is running some sort of spread offense and it is really getting pushed up to the college level now. Look at Michigan as an example of a normally slow power running team in a slow power running conference changing to the spread and you can see it is starting to catch on. The NFL takes a few years to catch up but you can see it at Miami with the wildcat formation, the spread is comming! It is comming just like the west coast offense did. It's only a matter of time before the Brady's and Mannings are out dated dinasoaurs, it will happen.....


Okay, now that's just funny. Your theory is that advanced football tactis are formulated in high school programs, then work their way up through the college systems and finally into the Pros? LMFAO! High school and college programs can run certain types of formations and get away with them because the players aren't as good at that level as in the NFL. Every player in the NFL was one of the best players on his team in college. Plays like the option just don't work because LB's and DE's are just too fast. The "wildcat" formation that the Fins use is a variation of the single wing formation that was popular when the NFL was just getting started. Gimmicky plays like this appear all the time, then defensive coordinators figure out how to stuff them and they go away again.

Talented, pocket passing QB's like Manning and Brady will always be a prime commodity in the NFL.
 
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Originally posted by Fattyb
It's only a matter of time before the Brady's and Mannings are out dated dinasoaurs, it will happen.....


The only way this happens is if the trend in high school continues where teams put their best athlete at QB and not the best QB. It's just easy to win at low levels when you stick a super fast athlete behind center and run spread. It also has pretty good success at the pro level, because it takes time to develop a thrower and you can always stick in a second running back and beat up on slow defenses. Problem is, in the NFL there really aren't many slow defenses. Yes Ronnie Brown destroyed the old and slow Patriots, but Baltimore destroyed the wild cat, and Buffalo even kept it in check where the slow pocket passer had to step in and throw for 300 yards.

 
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The best NFL "scrambling" QBs got a lot more done with their arms than their legs.

John Elway passed for 48,000 more yards than he rushed for (51,475 to 3,407)
Fran Tarkenton passed for over 43,000 more yards than he rushed for (47,003 to 3,674)
Steve Young passed for almost 29,000 more yards then he rushed for (33,124 to 4,239)
Randall Cunningham passed for 25,000 more yards than he rushed for (29,979 to 4,928)

That's just a few of the examples that came to mind, obviously it is far from comprehensive. You might also notice that Randall Cunningham had the highest rushing to passing yardage ratio at 1:6 and is the only QB in that list not in the Hall of Fame. Coincidence?

Now that that is out of the way I would like acknowledge that it doesn't necessarily mean anything to GLB. However if I was building a scrambling QB I would keep the above in mind, he is still likely to pass a LOT more than he runs and passing is still his primary purpose. Same thing goes if I was designing an offense around a scrambling QB. I believe that scrambling QB offenses are at their best when the THREAT of the QB rushing is enough to change the way defenses play pass coverage and helps get the receivers open. You can usually get a lot more production by hitting open receivers than you can running QB draws and bootlegs. Not to mention passing the ball well keeps your offense from becoming 1-dimensional.
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Look at my nice run

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=201307&pbp_id=11523567
 
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