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anyone every been on a team that used TE as WRs to pancake the hell out of CBs?

was thinkin of playing a run heavy team come next seasons BBB and just skipping getting wrs and have the TEs own corners and safeties all day and when i do pass go for short routes mostly or dump off passing.

just wanted some thoughts/ideas from the ole TE club before drafting this way.

there is some team that had all o-line men at wr positions and they did well. so i dint see why te's wont work.

especially since if you really wanted to, TEs can actually catch, allowing to pass if need be. i think it sounds like a good idea.

ya my thought was to punish folks on ground in 1&3q and open up some in 2nd and 4th...cbs would spend half the game on their asses loosin a ton of energy and such...

and ya the idea was to pass some so not 100% 1 dimensional...just want to do it only after softening up the cbs and safeties...

i don't think you have to use TEs to accomplish that.
Just got st and blocking up. just train on the two together for a long time. i dont think you really need blocking above 25, but high st will help for breaking tackles after catch anyway.

the goal is to just knock the cbs on their butts asap so they can peel off and block lbs and safeties so they will need solid str asap and high agil and decent spd as well as be rdy and able to run routes and catch a few after wearing down the cbs.

you are right tho blocking wont have to be hi at all for them as the whole plan is to not have to maintain a block but knock a cb down then find someone to chip to open up outside runs. might want real run blocking TEs to play their own position tho to block those lbs and DE where you need more blocking to maintain a block till your back gets past em.

i imagine your kr game would be pretty good with a team like this too as you would have alot of folks built to open a hole or two that are fairly quick.

how about using WR's and then train the necessary skills?
That way they will not get penalties for playing out of position.

Originally posted by niels
how about using WR's and then train the necessary skills?
That way they will not get penalties for playing out of position.

My thoughts exactly.

TES are cheaper and get better natural growth.

I have been using a TE as WR4 for 3 seasons now. He blocks just slightly better than a WR with half as much str and block.

In order to make a pancake machine out there, you would need to completely ignore making your TE a receiver.

I'm guessing the agility of the CBs is preventing the pancakes (much like the DE phenomenon).

Originally posted by LostPeon
Originally posted by niels

how about using WR's and then train the necessary skills?
That way they will not get penalties for playing out of position.

My thoughts exactly.

The TE blocking SA's ( run block /Pass block and even sticky hands to help them catch when you do pass ) might be enough to counter the out of position issues .Should be a very interesting concept I look forward to hearing more .

The SA blocking tree would be the only reason to use a TE as blocking WR.

If FP cost is an issue, a regular O-lineman would be the answer as he is cheaper than a TE.
Regular linemen have better blocking trees also, so if the tree is the main reason for using TE as WR, then perhaps it would make sense to do a similar experiment with G as WR?

Actually you want your WR/TE's to block well without pancaking the CBs. If they pancake them to quickly, your TE will run down the field and the CBs can get back up and make the play.

Also your primary stats should still be speed and agi to get downfield quicker... you dont need much str cause your natural growth gives you plenty (.5 per lvl from 1-22) and CBs are usually weak.

the goal i was thinkin of would be to pancake them asap so they can go hit a lb or safety... if the cb makes the play shouldnt be much of an issue as it wont be till the hb gets 4 or 5 yards if not more.

as to why a te and not a wr or Oline guy. well the TE can catch muuch better than an olineman as well as wont have the same out of position penalty. TE are better blockers than wrs are and how many WRs do you guys know that want 30 or so str and blocking? there is also the total lack of blocking skills for a wr to chose from.


I was just wanting to float this idea and was sure it had been done before just wanted to see what folks thought before i recruited 7-8TEs lol.

Originally posted by bodhisfattva
the goal i was thinkin of would be to pancake them asap so they can go hit a lb or safety... if the cb makes the play shouldnt be much of an issue as it wont be till the hb gets 4 or 5 yards if not more.

If it's a inside run, they won't fast enough to do this the LBs will already be in position to make a play unless they were really playing the pass.

If it's a outside run, then the CB gets pancaked and he will get up as the HB goes off-tackle being in a good position to make a play, around the line of scrimmage.

And it was done before, but with high STR/BLK WRs, which should give you similar results. Sorry I can't give you a link to the thread right now.

There you go... I found the thread:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=837323