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Individual settings are run focus, play setting is man and run focus... the SS doesn't fall back even though hes not set to blitz either, and he IS set to pass focus. Is this a known issue? If I blitzed all 3 to force them to stay at the line of scrimmage, would that reduce their ability to stop a guy running right at them? I hate giving up 3-4 yards when if they just waited at the line it would be 0-1 yard, but i dont want them to blitz and get blocked by the C and have the HB go right by them.

The LB auto-drop back is a feature. Bort is afraid the LBs will destroy the run game if they played straight up, or even took run-read steps.

Until Bort gets more confident in the blocking schemes, expect this behaviour to continue. Personally, I think it's a symptom of atrocious O-line builds, but I don't have a test server

does it happen less in a zone under? no way to minimize it?

Originally posted by knudlen
does it happen less in a zone under? no way to minimize it?

probably happens worse in zone unless the players have great vision.

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I beg to differ but my LBs usually don't d that stuff. They're making their readstep but that's all.

Yea, I actually posted about this earlier because I thought my guys were going into zone even when there was no zone output for them.

I'm not sure why the sim does that crap, but oh well. Hope you have enough speed/agil/vision to overcome....

Originally posted by Muensterman
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I beg to differ but my LBs usually don't d that stuff. They're making their readstep but that's all.

Thanks for making the OPs point. All your LBs drop back at the snap. That's the type of behaviour we'd sometimes like to avoid.

In your outputs on the advanced AI use Run Focus (stack the box)

It will help this. And no it doesn't affect how your secondary plays.

Originally posted by swoosh22
In your outputs on the advanced AI use Run Focus (stack the box)

It will help this. And no it doesn't affect how your secondary plays.

said in the first post that its already set to run focus, and it doesnt help. blitzing helps but then the HB is wide open on pass plays.

the facts are:

1. In man to man, the LBs will drop back no matter their focus. There is no way to stop it is to blitz.
2. Run focus will put them closer to the LOS but won't stop them from dropping back
3. Zone is worse against the run as they will run over to cover their zone at snap - and will be out of position to stop the run up the middle.

The only way to avoid the drop back is to blitz.

Rather than a dropstep (which just looks so darn wrong) could there instead be a 'pause' (like what Bort tried to do w/the FB earlier this season) until the QB hands-off on run plays?

Maybe allow them to move laterally w/the HB to so they don't get killed on pitches, but put in a parameter that won't let them actually move forward until X happens, or Y Ticks pass by.

Originally posted by Den
Rather than a dropstep (which just looks so darn wrong) could there instead be a 'pause' (like what Bort tried to do w/the FB earlier this season) until the QB hands-off on run plays?

Maybe allow them to move laterally w/the HB to so they don't get killed on pitches, but put in a parameter that won't let them actually move forward until X happens, or Y Ticks pass by.

Yes LBs must count ten Mississippi before they can rush

Originally posted by goshann
the facts are:

1. In man to man, the LBs will drop back no matter their focus. There is no way to stop it is to blitz.
2. Run focus will put them closer to the LOS but won't stop them from dropping back
3. Zone is worse against the run as they will run over to cover their zone at snap - and will be out of position to stop the run up the middle.

The only way to avoid the drop back is to blitz.



are you sure that LBs with good vision will still cover their zone on run plays?

Originally posted by goshann
the facts are:

1. In man to man, the LBs will drop back no matter their focus. There is no way to stop it is to blitz.
2. Run focus will put them closer to the LOS but won't stop them from dropping back
3. Zone is worse against the run as they will run over to cover their zone at snap - and will be out of position to stop the run up the middle.

The only way to avoid the drop back is to blitz.



I was always led to believe that in glb you weren't supposed to blitz on running formations...I have had the problem that Knudlen has on way to many occasions and it gets frustrating as heck... so you say to blitz???

Better vision LBs if they are in Run Bias will adjust more quickly to the run, but the most reliable way to defend the Run is to play a Man Underneath. The drop back of the LBs seems bad but in reality it helps with gap control. If you blitz all the LBs they will often get caught up at the Line of Scrimmage and the the back will break through the middle for a big gain.