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jprietman
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This ballot is for deciding whether or not it should be allowed for WEPL teams to recruit players from other WEPL teams.

As is usual in a just court of law, the owners/GMs of Aberdeen and Paris shall NOT be condemned for their actions of the past, regardless of the result of this ballot. No rule has been written yet, so no rule has been broken yet.

Please choose either option A or option B. Let's try not to create an Option C, guys.

Option A: It is disrespectful to the league and other owners within this league to attempt to recruit another team's players UNLESS that team is going to be gutted. Just because a team is facing possible relegation does not mean that they have called it quits. It should be an understood rule that no WEPL team is allowed to talk to other WEPL players in an effort to recruit them, unless that team has publicly called it quits. This league is most fun when everyone in it can maintain its competitiveness while sharing a mutual respect for everyone else.

Option B: The WEPL should preserve its reputation as a bloodthirsty, competitive league, and teams should be expected to do whatever it takes to win. Recruiting another WEPL teams' players is only part of survival within this league. If your team cannot keep its own players, it is only the fault of your team, and no one else's. This league is most fun when there are no limits or boundaries for maintaining a competitive edge.

Esen, please sticky.
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JD Cuda
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Option B
(However, I doubt Toledo's owner would do that. I, on the other hand, would not hesitate.)
 
Florida Tider
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Like Tennessee fans say, keep it the family.
 
coreyls18
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both!
thread fails!
 
jprietman
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Originally posted by Florida Tider
Like Tennessee fans say, keep it the family.


what the heck does THAT mean?
 
Adamjk
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Option B - we shouldn't be restricting player movement

We need a GLBPA!
 
Joebarber
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Originally posted by jprietman
Originally posted by Florida Tider

Like Tennessee fans say, keep it the family.


what the heck does THAT mean?


He is implying that UTenn fans are inbred rednecks...which is fairly accurate

 
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Originally posted by Joebarber
Originally posted by jprietman

Originally posted by Florida Tider


Like Tennessee fans say, keep it the family.


what the heck does THAT mean?


He is implying that UTenn fans are inbred rednecks...which is fairly accurate



yeah but, what does that mean as far as the voting goes?
 
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I think there's a flaw in the presentation of these two options, in that they're practically polar opposites with no room in the middle. Certainly there should be some limits and boundaries, but I don't see this situation as going over any lines.

Option B is the more favorable choice. I'd rather have no regulation than too much. But I'd propose that there be a ratified definition of tampering, which may include misrepresentation, anything that would directly affect the current season (asking a player his plans for next season would be okay), among other guidelines.

But I don't know any punishment that we can enforce if someone does go over a line.
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ShutMDown
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Enjoy this purely academic task everyone....
 
JD Cuda
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Originally posted by franciscoroark

But I don't know any punishment that we can enforce if someone does go over a line.


Forced bonus token usage versus that someone.
 
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Originally posted by jdupuy3
Originally posted by franciscoroark


But I don't know any punishment that we can enforce if someone does go over a line.


Forced bonus token usage versus that someone.


Yeah, not even close. Watch some 0-10 team break the rule, and then the next 6 teams have to essentially waste their tokens on a game that would probably be well in hand as is, instead of using them in a much more competitive and crucial game.
 
jprietman
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Originally posted by franciscoroark
I think there's a flaw in the presentation of these two options, in that they're practically polar opposites with no room in the middle. Certainly there should be some limits and boundaries, but I don't see this situation as going over any lines.

Option B is the more favorable choice. I'd rather have no regulation than too much. But I'd propose that there be a ratified definition of tampering, which may include misrepresentation, anything that would directly affect the current season (asking a player his plans for next season would be okay), among other guidelines.

But I don't know any punishment that we can enforce if someone does go over a line.


The basis of this whole thing is, should we respect a person who tries to recruit players from another WEPL team? Or should we not? There really shouldn't be any gray area here. I tried to present both options in a way where people can see the foundations/concept of where that option is coming from.

Obviously there should be regulation existing in this league, I'm not questioning that at all. If a team is a product of collusion/gutting, we should all agree that the owner of that team should not be accepted into our community. These quandaries have obvious answers. The only purpose of this ballot is to introduce two sides of a single argument about whether or not it is okay to try to recruit players off of a fellow WEPL team. In this case, there are two polar options, and no room in the middle.

In other words, you're thinking too much of the big picture when the issue at hand is much more specific.
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JD Cuda
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Originally posted by franciscoroark
Originally posted by jdupuy3

Originally posted by franciscoroark



But I don't know any punishment that we can enforce if someone does go over a line.


Forced bonus token usage versus that someone.


Yeah, not even close. Watch some 0-10 team break the rule, and then the next 6 teams have to essentially waste their tokens on a game that would probably be well in hand as is, instead of using them in a much more competitive and crucial game.


I wasn't serious, hence the smiley. It wouldn't be a good rule in the first place, it would hurt other teams instead of the original "rule-breaker," and it's unenforceable.

As for the respect issue in jprietman's post, I don't think it matters. Win at all costs (besides donging...). If it's legal, use it to your advantage.
 
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Option B
 
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