I know alot of people aren't big fans of openly sharing their builds but I'm trying to figure out how vision has either helped or hurt your build. Only looking for DT's with 40 or more vision to shoot ideas back and forth with and share builds.
I'm a big fan of it, only have mine at 35, but once I upped it and jumping, I got 2 PD's, more than doubled my sacks and upped my hurries big time.
JBrown5390
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Originally posted by Chugga34
I know alot of people aren't big fans of openly sharing their builds but I'm trying to figure out how vision has either helped or hurt your build. Only looking for DT's with 40 or more vision to shoot ideas back and forth with and share builds.
I hate vision for Dlineman, its never done anything for any of mine.
I know alot of people aren't big fans of openly sharing their builds but I'm trying to figure out how vision has either helped or hurt your build. Only looking for DT's with 40 or more vision to shoot ideas back and forth with and share builds.
I hate vision for Dlineman, its never done anything for any of mine.
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Originally posted by chivas
I'm a big fan of it, only have mine at 35, but once I upped it and jumping, I got 2 PD's, more than doubled my sacks and upped my hurries big time.
Same here.
I'm a big fan of it, only have mine at 35, but once I upped it and jumping, I got 2 PD's, more than doubled my sacks and upped my hurries big time.
Same here.
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Jumping over 30? Really? Seems counter-intuitive, but wouldn't be the first time something like that was true in this game.
Has anyone done a build like that to test it?
Has anyone done a build like that to test it?
DirtyMouse
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Originally posted by chivas
I'm a big fan of it, only have mine at 35, but once I upped it and jumping, I got 2 PD's, more than doubled my sacks and upped my hurries big time.
I would say that is a good goal for vision. It will only help you if you are not tied up with a OL to zero in on a RB (My DT has done that a few times). It supposedly helps you break tackles, but I think it is agility along with vision that does that.
I'm a big fan of it, only have mine at 35, but once I upped it and jumping, I got 2 PD's, more than doubled my sacks and upped my hurries big time.
I would say that is a good goal for vision. It will only help you if you are not tied up with a OL to zero in on a RB (My DT has done that a few times). It supposedly helps you break tackles, but I think it is agility along with vision that does that.
Madd_Maxx
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Originally posted by turftoe
Jumping over 30? Really? Seems counter-intuitive, but wouldn't be the first time something like that was true in this game.
Has anyone done a build like that to test it?
30 is too much, but 20 will really help. Wite gets a bunch of dive tackles.
Jumping over 30? Really? Seems counter-intuitive, but wouldn't be the first time something like that was true in this game.
Has anyone done a build like that to test it?
30 is too much, but 20 will really help. Wite gets a bunch of dive tackles.
Billy Corman
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Since the Skill Trees do not seem to offer much [at least that's the gist I get from these boards], does it make sense to raise Vision to the soft-cap?
STRENGTH - past second soft-cap
AGILITY - past first soft-cap
SPEED - past first soft-cap
TACKLING - - past first soft-cap
VISION - 40+
Is this a DT that can get into the backfield to cause some havoc?
STRENGTH - past second soft-cap
AGILITY - past first soft-cap
SPEED - past first soft-cap
TACKLING - - past first soft-cap
VISION - 40+
Is this a DT that can get into the backfield to cause some havoc?
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Originally posted by Billy Corman
Since the Skill Trees do not seem to offer much [at least that's the gist I get from these boards], does it make sense to raise Vision to the soft-cap?
STRENGTH - past second soft-cap
AGILITY - past first soft-cap
SPEED - past first soft-cap
TACKLING - - past first soft-cap
VISION - 40+
Is this a DT that can get into the backfield to cause some havoc?
That is pretty much what my DT looks like. Not many sacks or hurries, but does pretty well in the running game.
Kind of hard to judge since his sacks and hurries have been against scrubs. He usually gives up 3-6 levels and doesn't wreak much havoc in those games.
Since the Skill Trees do not seem to offer much [at least that's the gist I get from these boards], does it make sense to raise Vision to the soft-cap?
STRENGTH - past second soft-cap
AGILITY - past first soft-cap
SPEED - past first soft-cap
TACKLING - - past first soft-cap
VISION - 40+
Is this a DT that can get into the backfield to cause some havoc?
That is pretty much what my DT looks like. Not many sacks or hurries, but does pretty well in the running game.
Kind of hard to judge since his sacks and hurries have been against scrubs. He usually gives up 3-6 levels and doesn't wreak much havoc in those games.
Boozer1011
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Strength: 65
Speed: 42
Agility: 60
Jumping: 30
Stamina: 45
Vision: 45
Confidence: 20
Tackling: 50
Don't get many sacks at all. Though top DL in tackles in my conference...
Speed: 42
Agility: 60
Jumping: 30
Stamina: 45
Vision: 45
Confidence: 20
Tackling: 50
Don't get many sacks at all. Though top DL in tackles in my conference...
Billy Corman
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In this game, its awful tough to record a sack as a DT. Or maybe, I haven't found the right guy and right defensive scheme. Anyway, I'd be just as interested in TFL's and Hurries.
Primate, Boozer1011 ... you guys get those stats? And killing a running game is absolute money, too.
Primate, Boozer1011 ... you guys get those stats? And killing a running game is absolute money, too.
Madd_Maxx
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Originally posted by Billy Corman
In this game, its awful tough to record a sack as a DT. Or maybe, I haven't found the right guy and right defensive scheme. Anyway, I'd be just as interested in TFL's and Hurries.
Primate, Boozer1011 ... you guys get those stats? And killing a running game is absolute money, too.
Your probably outleveled with your DT at 15 in a second year Africa A league. DT's are very capable of sacks even against equal leveled linemen. Good builds are the key.
In this game, its awful tough to record a sack as a DT. Or maybe, I haven't found the right guy and right defensive scheme. Anyway, I'd be just as interested in TFL's and Hurries.
Primate, Boozer1011 ... you guys get those stats? And killing a running game is absolute money, too.
Your probably outleveled with your DT at 15 in a second year Africa A league. DT's are very capable of sacks even against equal leveled linemen. Good builds are the key.
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JBrown5390
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Originally posted by Boozer1011
Strength: 65
Speed: 42
Agility: 60
Jumping: 30
Stamina: 45
Vision: 45
Confidence: 20
Tackling: 50
Don't get many sacks at all. Though top DL in tackles in my conference...
65 strength and 60 agility seems awfully low for a level 27.
Strength: 65
Speed: 42
Agility: 60
Jumping: 30
Stamina: 45
Vision: 45
Confidence: 20
Tackling: 50
Don't get many sacks at all. Though top DL in tackles in my conference...
65 strength and 60 agility seems awfully low for a level 27.
Madd_Maxx
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Originally posted by Boozer1011
Strength: 65
Speed: 42
Agility: 60
Jumping: 30
Stamina: 45
Vision: 45
Confidence: 20
Tackling: 50
Don't get many sacks at all. Though top DL in tackles in my conference...
not enough in strength, speed, and agility, too much in jumping, stamina, vision and tackling.
Strength: 65
Speed: 42
Agility: 60
Jumping: 30
Stamina: 45
Vision: 45
Confidence: 20
Tackling: 50
Don't get many sacks at all. Though top DL in tackles in my conference...
not enough in strength, speed, and agility, too much in jumping, stamina, vision and tackling.
JBrown5390
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Originally posted by Madd_Maxx
Originally posted by Boozer1011
Strength: 65
Speed: 42
Agility: 60
Jumping: 30
Stamina: 45
Vision: 45
Confidence: 20
Tackling: 50
Don't get many sacks at all. Though top DL in tackles in my conference...
not enough in strength, speed, and agility, too much in jumping, stamina, vision and tackling.
I agree
Originally posted by Boozer1011
Strength: 65
Speed: 42
Agility: 60
Jumping: 30
Stamina: 45
Vision: 45
Confidence: 20
Tackling: 50
Don't get many sacks at all. Though top DL in tackles in my conference...
not enough in strength, speed, and agility, too much in jumping, stamina, vision and tackling.
I agree
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