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Dachpappe
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I am stuck with my FB. Now hes going a little bit smoother after I uped agility a bit, but now there are sudden stops:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=162815&pbp_id=6198908
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=162815&pbp_id=6199003
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=162815&pbp_id=6199043
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=162815&pbp_id=6199345
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=162815&pbp_id=6200733 (vision?)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=162815&pbp_id=6201531 (drained?)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=162815&pbp_id=6203428 (drained/agility)


Strength: 70.99
Blocking: 49.65
Speed: 48.21
Tackling: 15.58
Agility: 51.69
Throwing: 8
Jumping: 15.13
Catching: 23.38
Stamina: 34.02
Carrying: 38.83
Vision: 31.15
Kicking: 8
Confidence: 30.98
Punting: 8

Blocking Abilities
22221
Offensive Abilities
22121

16 SP to spent.

Thanks for input.
 
Warlock
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Your HB is way too fast. At soft capped speed, you should have little trouble getting in front of typical HBs. So I guess you need to work on speed again or buy a couple speed equipment items to use while on this team.

Sometimes you have to change builds/equipment to suit the team, this appears to be one of those situations.
 
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I first thought it to be speed. But I changed equipment from speed to strength. But havent sold it, so I could switch back for further testing. Over the last three games I uped agility from softcap to 51.69. His cuts arent as rough as before, but now he just wont move sometimes. Thought of vision...like he doesnt no where to head for, which one to block.
 
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Originally posted by Dachpappe
I first thought it to be speed. But I changed equipment from speed to strength. But havent sold it, so I could switch back for further testing. Over the last three games I uped agility from softcap to 51.69. His cuts arent as rough as before, but now he just wont move sometimes. Thought of vision...like he doesnt no where to head for, which one to block.


Your vision is only a little less than mine (I'm at like 38 or 39). Your agility is slightly higher as well and our speed is identical... I don't think 7-8 points of vision would make that huge of a difference, but your HB is passing you almost immediately on everyone of those plays... I'd say speed is to blame.

My HBs are starting to get to the point, where I'll need to up my speed, thankfully they pass by right about the time that I hit the LB. I don't think you're way off of the mark, probably about 10 points TBPH.

Are you set to run block focus?
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Dachpappe
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Originally posted by Warlock
Are you set to run block focus?


Thanks so far for your insight. Yes, set to run block focus.

 
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Originally posted by Dachpappe
Originally posted by Warlock

Are you set to run block focus?


Thanks so far for your insight. Yes, set to run block focus.



No worries. If you're set to +run blocking tactics (same as I am), there's really only two things that I can figure out through subtraction...

A) Your speed is too low in comparison to your HB's speed.

B) The 7-8 point difference in vision, is much more of a factor than I would have guessed.

We have very similar builds... you're a couple points higher in agility, stamina and carrying (2-3 each). I'm ~15 points higher in strength, ~8 points higher in vision and a couple points higher in most SA.

Looking at these factors, the only real difference is vision and I don't think it's that big of a gap (enough to really make as large of a difference as I see in those plays IMHO). Although, the one thing that really stuck out to me, was how fast your HB is.
 
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OK, great chance for us both to improve, eh? Well at least for me and thank you again. As I said I switched back equipment, now its -2 strength and +4 speed. I will report back in after the next game in 22 hours.
 
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Originally posted by Dachpappe
OK, great chance for us both to improve, eh? Well at least for me and thank you again. As I said I switched back equipment, now its -2 strength and +4 speed. I will report back in after the next game in 22 hours.


My personality is usually to be helpful and as we're not currently in direct competition, I can't see a reason not to offer help.

I don't think +4 speed will put you over that hump, you may need to toss one more piece over to speed, at least until you can raise it via SP (or you get a slower HB). All the strength in the world, won't do anything if you can't reach anyone to block...

Based off of those replays, I'm guessing that your HB has ~70 speed at a minimum. You're going to have to get within at least 15 points, to have a decent chance of getting that block off before he's running past you IMHO.
 
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May not look like it, but my FB is within 15 points speed compared to the HBs. With and without switching equipment.
 
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Originally posted by Dachpappe
May not look like it, but my FB is within 15 points speed compared to the HBs. With and without switching equipment.


Well, after taking a minute to look into my own situation some...

My starting HB is 20 speed higher than myself and the back-up has the same speed, they both have similar vision too. The one area that has a significant difference is agility, but it's only a 6 point gap. This leads me to believe that this issue has to do with running style tactics.

The starting HB I believe is set to combo style and the back-up is set to elusive. On occasion it seems that the back-up passes me up, not following the blocks as well. Either that or maybe carrying and/or confidence might make some sort of difference (because there seems to be a larger gap in those areas (the back-up having more in both by 7 and 11 respectively).

My conclusion is that it's a running style issue, causing your HB to out run his blocks. Although, it could be agility. My FB is 3 points behind the starter and 9 behind the back-up. Which would be a huge difference for only 6 points. I mean, your agility is even higher than mine.
 
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Well...here is something new. In todays game my FB performed slightly better. At least he stopped less often at the LOS (twice) or missed a block. The other FB adjusted his speed very close to our HBs speed. He did perform very well. I will dump the speed equipment, replace it with strength and ad speed from my 16 SP left. Ill get him where I want him
 
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Originally posted by Dachpappe
Well...here is something new. In todays game my FB performed slightly better. At least he stopped less often at the LOS (twice) or missed a block. The other FB adjusted his speed very close to our HBs speed. He did perform very well. I will dump the speed equipment, replace it with strength and ad speed from my 16 SP left. Ill get him where I want him


Unfortunately, speed kills in this game it appears. That and strength isn't very important I'm starting to discover (at least in a point per point basis).
 
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After last game I am very pleased. He didnt do any strange stuff anymore. All I did was speed. Equipped hes now within 5 of the speed of our RBs. But where to spend the remaining 13 SP (he leveld too)?
 
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Originally posted by Dachpappe
After last game I am very pleased. He didnt do any strange stuff anymore. All I did was speed. Equipped hes now within 5 of the speed of our RBs. But where to spend the remaining 13 SP (he leveld too)?


Start working on 2nd caps IMHO. If speed is good for now, strength can always use love (especially if you want pancakes and broken tackles).
 
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Hmmm I would say Vision.
 
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