I'm sure there is a thread somewhere but I won't spend the time to look for it. I get better info here anyway. Is it just me or is most of the new equipment you can buy really a downgrade to what you already have?
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two thoughts on it, one is yes for levels 24+ at this times since your stat boosts from regular eq is better. BUT the other point given is that the 'right' eq is good and when combined with the boost you can give to it will at some point be better than the standard eq.
If I summed that up wrong I am sure someone will correct it. Take a look in the FAQ in the forum, there is one about eq and in it a link to talks about eq... I'd post the link but I cannot get another page to load the forums <sigh>
If I summed that up wrong I am sure someone will correct it. Take a look in the FAQ in the forum, there is one about eq and in it a link to talks about eq... I'd post the link but I cannot get another page to load the forums <sigh>
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I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
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i should look into it a bit more. i just wanted to make sure it wasn't something that was totally broken before i put to much time into it.
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Originally posted by Bones Brigade
I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
How can you be sure that EQ can be upgraded 3 or 4 times if it is already a +3 piece? Wouldn't a +3 piece be the level 24 or 32 advanced EQ? I don't see any +3 pieces being offered to my lower level players. And since nobody has been able to upgrade any EQ because we don't have the bonus tokens, anything else at this point is mere guesswork. Maybe it can only be upgraded to be equal to the level bonuses you can have with the basic stuff. Maybe it can only be +5 and the +attribute at level 32.
I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
How can you be sure that EQ can be upgraded 3 or 4 times if it is already a +3 piece? Wouldn't a +3 piece be the level 24 or 32 advanced EQ? I don't see any +3 pieces being offered to my lower level players. And since nobody has been able to upgrade any EQ because we don't have the bonus tokens, anything else at this point is mere guesswork. Maybe it can only be upgraded to be equal to the level bonuses you can have with the basic stuff. Maybe it can only be +5 and the +attribute at level 32.
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Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by Bones Brigade
I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
How can you be sure that EQ can be upgraded 3 or 4 times if it is already a +3 piece? Wouldn't a +3 piece be the level 24 or 32 advanced EQ? I don't see any +3 pieces being offered to my lower level players. And since nobody has been able to upgrade any EQ because we don't have the bonus tokens, anything else at this point is mere guesswork. Maybe it can only be upgraded to be equal to the level bonuses you can have with the basic stuff. Maybe it can only be +5 and the +attribute at level 32.
Pretty sure you can upgrade a +3 you get just like it is a new +1 a level 1 gets. It would take about 3-4 years to do so though, and waste like 12-16 SP's so not really worth it anyway.
Originally posted by Bones Brigade
I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
How can you be sure that EQ can be upgraded 3 or 4 times if it is already a +3 piece? Wouldn't a +3 piece be the level 24 or 32 advanced EQ? I don't see any +3 pieces being offered to my lower level players. And since nobody has been able to upgrade any EQ because we don't have the bonus tokens, anything else at this point is mere guesswork. Maybe it can only be upgraded to be equal to the level bonuses you can have with the basic stuff. Maybe it can only be +5 and the +attribute at level 32.
Pretty sure you can upgrade a +3 you get just like it is a new +1 a level 1 gets. It would take about 3-4 years to do so though, and waste like 12-16 SP's so not really worth it anyway.
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u can upgrade like the ones that you already have every 8 lvls but for that u need 10 bonus token instead of money.
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Intense FTW. Normal is just a way for people to mess up there builds or fail to maximize its effectiveness. Normal with NO secondary activity is good though I will say. The shopping was just a smoke screen for players who wanted more to do but it doesn't actually give a player mor to do because they took away the energy relationship so there is no need to manage after games. In fact it makes it fr playes to do less when they train on intense because it takes 3 days to get enough TP. I like the training system but it cold have waited for more pressing issues like gutting, parity, league structure. It finally is getting looked at seriously because the community has finally had enough of the BS. I still think they will screw it up based on the track record of updates to this point.
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Originally posted by blln4lyf
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by Bones Brigade
I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
How can you be sure that EQ can be upgraded 3 or 4 times if it is already a +3 piece? Wouldn't a +3 piece be the level 24 or 32 advanced EQ? I don't see any +3 pieces being offered to my lower level players. And since nobody has been able to upgrade any EQ because we don't have the bonus tokens, anything else at this point is mere guesswork. Maybe it can only be upgraded to be equal to the level bonuses you can have with the basic stuff. Maybe it can only be +5 and the +attribute at level 32.
Pretty sure you can upgrade a +3 you get just like it is a new +1 a level 1 gets. It would take about 3-4 years to do so though, and waste like 12-16 SP's so not really worth it anyway.
I'm not doubting that you can upgrade it 1 time or something, but will it ever be able to be upgraded to have more +'s than the basic EQ upgrades available at your level. For example, if you buy a level 24 piece of advanced eq when you turn level 24. It would probably be +2, maybe +3 if it's really good. So, by the end of that season, if it's a +3 piece, you could make it +4. That would be cool because it would be just like the basic stuff and have the bonus feature. Then, by the end of the next season you'll have enough BTs to upgrade it 2 more times. So, could it be +6 even though you are only level 32 and your basic upgrades can only be +5. That's what I'm wondering. And, the way the EQ is set up now, Good luck ever having more than 2 pieces of advanced EQ that are better than the basic stuff. How are you ever supposed to get a set and get the set bonus. Why wear a set of the stuff when all of the pieces would be less powerful than your basic EQ. Seems kinda dumb.
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by Bones Brigade
I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
How can you be sure that EQ can be upgraded 3 or 4 times if it is already a +3 piece? Wouldn't a +3 piece be the level 24 or 32 advanced EQ? I don't see any +3 pieces being offered to my lower level players. And since nobody has been able to upgrade any EQ because we don't have the bonus tokens, anything else at this point is mere guesswork. Maybe it can only be upgraded to be equal to the level bonuses you can have with the basic stuff. Maybe it can only be +5 and the +attribute at level 32.
Pretty sure you can upgrade a +3 you get just like it is a new +1 a level 1 gets. It would take about 3-4 years to do so though, and waste like 12-16 SP's so not really worth it anyway.
I'm not doubting that you can upgrade it 1 time or something, but will it ever be able to be upgraded to have more +'s than the basic EQ upgrades available at your level. For example, if you buy a level 24 piece of advanced eq when you turn level 24. It would probably be +2, maybe +3 if it's really good. So, by the end of that season, if it's a +3 piece, you could make it +4. That would be cool because it would be just like the basic stuff and have the bonus feature. Then, by the end of the next season you'll have enough BTs to upgrade it 2 more times. So, could it be +6 even though you are only level 32 and your basic upgrades can only be +5. That's what I'm wondering. And, the way the EQ is set up now, Good luck ever having more than 2 pieces of advanced EQ that are better than the basic stuff. How are you ever supposed to get a set and get the set bonus. Why wear a set of the stuff when all of the pieces would be less powerful than your basic EQ. Seems kinda dumb.
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not to mention the luck you would need to get the right advanced EQ... I know I tried with one player to find a nice piece for him and got crap in 5 tries... I'll not be doing any shopping points until the word spreads that it is worth it. I'll wait until they allow trading of eq and then pick and choose.
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Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by blln4lyf
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by Bones Brigade
I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
How can you be sure that EQ can be upgraded 3 or 4 times if it is already a +3 piece? Wouldn't a +3 piece be the level 24 or 32 advanced EQ? I don't see any +3 pieces being offered to my lower level players. And since nobody has been able to upgrade any EQ because we don't have the bonus tokens, anything else at this point is mere guesswork. Maybe it can only be upgraded to be equal to the level bonuses you can have with the basic stuff. Maybe it can only be +5 and the +attribute at level 32.
Pretty sure you can upgrade a +3 you get just like it is a new +1 a level 1 gets. It would take about 3-4 years to do so though, and waste like 12-16 SP's so not really worth it anyway.
I'm not doubting that you can upgrade it 1 time or something, but will it ever be able to be upgraded to have more +'s than the basic EQ upgrades available at your level. For example, if you buy a level 24 piece of advanced eq when you turn level 24. It would probably be +2, maybe +3 if it's really good. So, by the end of that season, if it's a +3 piece, you could make it +4. That would be cool because it would be just like the basic stuff and have the bonus feature. Then, by the end of the next season you'll have enough BTs to upgrade it 2 more times. So, could it be +6 even though you are only level 32 and your basic upgrades can only be +5. That's what I'm wondering. And, the way the EQ is set up now, Good luck ever having more than 2 pieces of advanced EQ that are better than the basic stuff. How are you ever supposed to get a set and get the set bonus. Why wear a set of the stuff when all of the pieces would be less powerful than your basic EQ. Seems kinda dumb.
lets suppose u get a EQ +3+sa u can upgrade it every 8 lvls, lvl 8-16-24-32-40... and so on, so actually those pieces can be more powerfull than the ones that you actually have, but you will need 1 season to get a lvl 32 upgrade on only one piece so in my point of view those suck not to mention those SA have a really low % chance.
Originally posted by blln4lyf
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by Bones Brigade
I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
How can you be sure that EQ can be upgraded 3 or 4 times if it is already a +3 piece? Wouldn't a +3 piece be the level 24 or 32 advanced EQ? I don't see any +3 pieces being offered to my lower level players. And since nobody has been able to upgrade any EQ because we don't have the bonus tokens, anything else at this point is mere guesswork. Maybe it can only be upgraded to be equal to the level bonuses you can have with the basic stuff. Maybe it can only be +5 and the +attribute at level 32.
Pretty sure you can upgrade a +3 you get just like it is a new +1 a level 1 gets. It would take about 3-4 years to do so though, and waste like 12-16 SP's so not really worth it anyway.
I'm not doubting that you can upgrade it 1 time or something, but will it ever be able to be upgraded to have more +'s than the basic EQ upgrades available at your level. For example, if you buy a level 24 piece of advanced eq when you turn level 24. It would probably be +2, maybe +3 if it's really good. So, by the end of that season, if it's a +3 piece, you could make it +4. That would be cool because it would be just like the basic stuff and have the bonus feature. Then, by the end of the next season you'll have enough BTs to upgrade it 2 more times. So, could it be +6 even though you are only level 32 and your basic upgrades can only be +5. That's what I'm wondering. And, the way the EQ is set up now, Good luck ever having more than 2 pieces of advanced EQ that are better than the basic stuff. How are you ever supposed to get a set and get the set bonus. Why wear a set of the stuff when all of the pieces would be less powerful than your basic EQ. Seems kinda dumb.
lets suppose u get a EQ +3+sa u can upgrade it every 8 lvls, lvl 8-16-24-32-40... and so on, so actually those pieces can be more powerfull than the ones that you actually have, but you will need 1 season to get a lvl 32 upgrade on only one piece so in my point of view those suck not to mention those SA have a really low % chance.
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Originally posted by marcaodl
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by blln4lyf
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by Bones Brigade
I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
How can you be sure that EQ can be upgraded 3 or 4 times if it is already a +3 piece? Wouldn't a +3 piece be the level 24 or 32 advanced EQ? I don't see any +3 pieces being offered to my lower level players. And since nobody has been able to upgrade any EQ because we don't have the bonus tokens, anything else at this point is mere guesswork. Maybe it can only be upgraded to be equal to the level bonuses you can have with the basic stuff. Maybe it can only be +5 and the +attribute at level 32.
Pretty sure you can upgrade a +3 you get just like it is a new +1 a level 1 gets. It would take about 3-4 years to do so though, and waste like 12-16 SP's so not really worth it anyway.
I'm not doubting that you can upgrade it 1 time or something, but will it ever be able to be upgraded to have more +'s than the basic EQ upgrades available at your level. For example, if you buy a level 24 piece of advanced eq when you turn level 24. It would probably be +2, maybe +3 if it's really good. So, by the end of that season, if it's a +3 piece, you could make it +4. That would be cool because it would be just like the basic stuff and have the bonus feature. Then, by the end of the next season you'll have enough BTs to upgrade it 2 more times. So, could it be +6 even though you are only level 32 and your basic upgrades can only be +5. That's what I'm wondering. And, the way the EQ is set up now, Good luck ever having more than 2 pieces of advanced EQ that are better than the basic stuff. How are you ever supposed to get a set and get the set bonus. Why wear a set of the stuff when all of the pieces would be less powerful than your basic EQ. Seems kinda dumb.
lets suppose u get a EQ +3+sa u can upgrade it every 8 lvls, lvl 8-16-24-32-40... and so on, so actually those pieces can be more powerfull than the ones that you actually have, but you will need 1 season to get a lvl 32 upgrade on only one piece so in my point of view those suck not to mention those SA have a really low % chance.
Well, that would be nice if it is that way. Is that actually posted somewhere by Bort stating that is indeed the case? Or, are we guessing only to find out later that the the first 3 pluses considered the 1, 8, and 16 upgrades?
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by blln4lyf
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by Bones Brigade
I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
How can you be sure that EQ can be upgraded 3 or 4 times if it is already a +3 piece? Wouldn't a +3 piece be the level 24 or 32 advanced EQ? I don't see any +3 pieces being offered to my lower level players. And since nobody has been able to upgrade any EQ because we don't have the bonus tokens, anything else at this point is mere guesswork. Maybe it can only be upgraded to be equal to the level bonuses you can have with the basic stuff. Maybe it can only be +5 and the +attribute at level 32.
Pretty sure you can upgrade a +3 you get just like it is a new +1 a level 1 gets. It would take about 3-4 years to do so though, and waste like 12-16 SP's so not really worth it anyway.
I'm not doubting that you can upgrade it 1 time or something, but will it ever be able to be upgraded to have more +'s than the basic EQ upgrades available at your level. For example, if you buy a level 24 piece of advanced eq when you turn level 24. It would probably be +2, maybe +3 if it's really good. So, by the end of that season, if it's a +3 piece, you could make it +4. That would be cool because it would be just like the basic stuff and have the bonus feature. Then, by the end of the next season you'll have enough BTs to upgrade it 2 more times. So, could it be +6 even though you are only level 32 and your basic upgrades can only be +5. That's what I'm wondering. And, the way the EQ is set up now, Good luck ever having more than 2 pieces of advanced EQ that are better than the basic stuff. How are you ever supposed to get a set and get the set bonus. Why wear a set of the stuff when all of the pieces would be less powerful than your basic EQ. Seems kinda dumb.
lets suppose u get a EQ +3+sa u can upgrade it every 8 lvls, lvl 8-16-24-32-40... and so on, so actually those pieces can be more powerfull than the ones that you actually have, but you will need 1 season to get a lvl 32 upgrade on only one piece so in my point of view those suck not to mention those SA have a really low % chance.
Well, that would be nice if it is that way. Is that actually posted somewhere by Bort stating that is indeed the case? Or, are we guessing only to find out later that the the first 3 pluses considered the 1, 8, and 16 upgrades?
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Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by marcaodl
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by blln4lyf
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by Bones Brigade
I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
How can you be sure that EQ can be upgraded 3 or 4 times if it is already a +3 piece? Wouldn't a +3 piece be the level 24 or 32 advanced EQ? I don't see any +3 pieces being offered to my lower level players. And since nobody has been able to upgrade any EQ because we don't have the bonus tokens, anything else at this point is mere guesswork. Maybe it can only be upgraded to be equal to the level bonuses you can have with the basic stuff. Maybe it can only be +5 and the +attribute at level 32.
Pretty sure you can upgrade a +3 you get just like it is a new +1 a level 1 gets. It would take about 3-4 years to do so though, and waste like 12-16 SP's so not really worth it anyway.
I'm not doubting that you can upgrade it 1 time or something, but will it ever be able to be upgraded to have more +'s than the basic EQ upgrades available at your level. For example, if you buy a level 24 piece of advanced eq when you turn level 24. It would probably be +2, maybe +3 if it's really good. So, by the end of that season, if it's a +3 piece, you could make it +4. That would be cool because it would be just like the basic stuff and have the bonus feature. Then, by the end of the next season you'll have enough BTs to upgrade it 2 more times. So, could it be +6 even though you are only level 32 and your basic upgrades can only be +5. That's what I'm wondering. And, the way the EQ is set up now, Good luck ever having more than 2 pieces of advanced EQ that are better than the basic stuff. How are you ever supposed to get a set and get the set bonus. Why wear a set of the stuff when all of the pieces would be less powerful than your basic EQ. Seems kinda dumb.
lets suppose u get a EQ +3+sa u can upgrade it every 8 lvls, lvl 8-16-24-32-40... and so on, so actually those pieces can be more powerfull than the ones that you actually have, but you will need 1 season to get a lvl 32 upgrade on only one piece so in my point of view those suck not to mention those SA have a really low % chance.
Well, that would be nice if it is that way. Is that actually posted somewhere by Bort stating that is indeed the case? Or, are we guessing only to find out later that the the first 3 pluses considered the 1, 8, and 16 upgrades?
I already experimented with it... you miss out on all of the upgrades that you have passed. For example if you have a level 25 player and you buy a new piece of special equipment you do not get to upgrade it for the level 8, 16, or 24.
So basically unless you are sub level 8 it is a waste. On the other hand if you get it early on and upgrade it is a good deal. However the good ones cost upwards of $25,000.00. I don't know many low level players that have that kind of money saved up.
Originally posted by marcaodl
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by blln4lyf
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by Bones Brigade
I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
How can you be sure that EQ can be upgraded 3 or 4 times if it is already a +3 piece? Wouldn't a +3 piece be the level 24 or 32 advanced EQ? I don't see any +3 pieces being offered to my lower level players. And since nobody has been able to upgrade any EQ because we don't have the bonus tokens, anything else at this point is mere guesswork. Maybe it can only be upgraded to be equal to the level bonuses you can have with the basic stuff. Maybe it can only be +5 and the +attribute at level 32.
Pretty sure you can upgrade a +3 you get just like it is a new +1 a level 1 gets. It would take about 3-4 years to do so though, and waste like 12-16 SP's so not really worth it anyway.
I'm not doubting that you can upgrade it 1 time or something, but will it ever be able to be upgraded to have more +'s than the basic EQ upgrades available at your level. For example, if you buy a level 24 piece of advanced eq when you turn level 24. It would probably be +2, maybe +3 if it's really good. So, by the end of that season, if it's a +3 piece, you could make it +4. That would be cool because it would be just like the basic stuff and have the bonus feature. Then, by the end of the next season you'll have enough BTs to upgrade it 2 more times. So, could it be +6 even though you are only level 32 and your basic upgrades can only be +5. That's what I'm wondering. And, the way the EQ is set up now, Good luck ever having more than 2 pieces of advanced EQ that are better than the basic stuff. How are you ever supposed to get a set and get the set bonus. Why wear a set of the stuff when all of the pieces would be less powerful than your basic EQ. Seems kinda dumb.
lets suppose u get a EQ +3+sa u can upgrade it every 8 lvls, lvl 8-16-24-32-40... and so on, so actually those pieces can be more powerfull than the ones that you actually have, but you will need 1 season to get a lvl 32 upgrade on only one piece so in my point of view those suck not to mention those SA have a really low % chance.
Well, that would be nice if it is that way. Is that actually posted somewhere by Bort stating that is indeed the case? Or, are we guessing only to find out later that the the first 3 pluses considered the 1, 8, and 16 upgrades?
I already experimented with it... you miss out on all of the upgrades that you have passed. For example if you have a level 25 player and you buy a new piece of special equipment you do not get to upgrade it for the level 8, 16, or 24.
So basically unless you are sub level 8 it is a waste. On the other hand if you get it early on and upgrade it is a good deal. However the good ones cost upwards of $25,000.00. I don't know many low level players that have that kind of money saved up.
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Originally posted by Bellflowercrew
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by marcaodl
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by blln4lyf
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by Bones Brigade
I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
How can you be sure that EQ can be upgraded 3 or 4 times if it is already a +3 piece? Wouldn't a +3 piece be the level 24 or 32 advanced EQ? I don't see any +3 pieces being offered to my lower level players. And since nobody has been able to upgrade any EQ because we don't have the bonus tokens, anything else at this point is mere guesswork. Maybe it can only be upgraded to be equal to the level bonuses you can have with the basic stuff. Maybe it can only be +5 and the +attribute at level 32.
Pretty sure you can upgrade a +3 you get just like it is a new +1 a level 1 gets. It would take about 3-4 years to do so though, and waste like 12-16 SP's so not really worth it anyway.
I'm not doubting that you can upgrade it 1 time or something, but will it ever be able to be upgraded to have more +'s than the basic EQ upgrades available at your level. For example, if you buy a level 24 piece of advanced eq when you turn level 24. It would probably be +2, maybe +3 if it's really good. So, by the end of that season, if it's a +3 piece, you could make it +4. That would be cool because it would be just like the basic stuff and have the bonus feature. Then, by the end of the next season you'll have enough BTs to upgrade it 2 more times. So, could it be +6 even though you are only level 32 and your basic upgrades can only be +5. That's what I'm wondering. And, the way the EQ is set up now, Good luck ever having more than 2 pieces of advanced EQ that are better than the basic stuff. How are you ever supposed to get a set and get the set bonus. Why wear a set of the stuff when all of the pieces would be less powerful than your basic EQ. Seems kinda dumb.
lets suppose u get a EQ +3+sa u can upgrade it every 8 lvls, lvl 8-16-24-32-40... and so on, so actually those pieces can be more powerfull than the ones that you actually have, but you will need 1 season to get a lvl 32 upgrade on only one piece so in my point of view those suck not to mention those SA have a really low % chance.
Well, that would be nice if it is that way. Is that actually posted somewhere by Bort stating that is indeed the case? Or, are we guessing only to find out later that the the first 3 pluses considered the 1, 8, and 16 upgrades?
I already experimented with it... you miss out on all of the upgrades that you have passed. For example if you have a level 25 player and you buy a new piece of special equipment you do not get to upgrade it for the level 8, 16, or 24.
So basically unless you are sub level 8 it is a waste. On the other hand if you get it early on and upgrade it is a good deal. However the good ones cost upwards of $25,000.00. I don't know many low level players that have that kind of money saved up.
Exactly, i feel like i down grade when i get a pieces of "advanced" equipment
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by marcaodl
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by blln4lyf
Originally posted by notgoing2argue
Originally posted by Bones Brigade
I look at it like a lottery - most of the time you waste your money, but i have seen some high level gear that is really good.
by really good, I mean - +1 SA in your player's Tree AND +3 to a useful attribute
since that gear could still get upgraded 3 times to lvl 24 or 4 times to lvl 32, it would be a total of +6 - +7 to the attribute AND +1 SA
I think +1 SA outside of your player's tree is worthless
but how many 'refreshes' does it take? that is the problem! some guys get lucky with 2-3, but it could also never show up and you waste training pts.
How can you be sure that EQ can be upgraded 3 or 4 times if it is already a +3 piece? Wouldn't a +3 piece be the level 24 or 32 advanced EQ? I don't see any +3 pieces being offered to my lower level players. And since nobody has been able to upgrade any EQ because we don't have the bonus tokens, anything else at this point is mere guesswork. Maybe it can only be upgraded to be equal to the level bonuses you can have with the basic stuff. Maybe it can only be +5 and the +attribute at level 32.
Pretty sure you can upgrade a +3 you get just like it is a new +1 a level 1 gets. It would take about 3-4 years to do so though, and waste like 12-16 SP's so not really worth it anyway.
I'm not doubting that you can upgrade it 1 time or something, but will it ever be able to be upgraded to have more +'s than the basic EQ upgrades available at your level. For example, if you buy a level 24 piece of advanced eq when you turn level 24. It would probably be +2, maybe +3 if it's really good. So, by the end of that season, if it's a +3 piece, you could make it +4. That would be cool because it would be just like the basic stuff and have the bonus feature. Then, by the end of the next season you'll have enough BTs to upgrade it 2 more times. So, could it be +6 even though you are only level 32 and your basic upgrades can only be +5. That's what I'm wondering. And, the way the EQ is set up now, Good luck ever having more than 2 pieces of advanced EQ that are better than the basic stuff. How are you ever supposed to get a set and get the set bonus. Why wear a set of the stuff when all of the pieces would be less powerful than your basic EQ. Seems kinda dumb.
lets suppose u get a EQ +3+sa u can upgrade it every 8 lvls, lvl 8-16-24-32-40... and so on, so actually those pieces can be more powerfull than the ones that you actually have, but you will need 1 season to get a lvl 32 upgrade on only one piece so in my point of view those suck not to mention those SA have a really low % chance.
Well, that would be nice if it is that way. Is that actually posted somewhere by Bort stating that is indeed the case? Or, are we guessing only to find out later that the the first 3 pluses considered the 1, 8, and 16 upgrades?
I already experimented with it... you miss out on all of the upgrades that you have passed. For example if you have a level 25 player and you buy a new piece of special equipment you do not get to upgrade it for the level 8, 16, or 24.
So basically unless you are sub level 8 it is a waste. On the other hand if you get it early on and upgrade it is a good deal. However the good ones cost upwards of $25,000.00. I don't know many low level players that have that kind of money saved up.
Exactly, i feel like i down grade when i get a pieces of "advanced" equipment
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